Hi Adam, I use Rose Gilardi this year onto Summer Wind. 3 blooms covered 10 hips, which is actually quite a lot for a mini. I hope someone sells Shadow Dancer because its a pretty awesome rose. I’d love to see it on an arbor some day.
Shadow Dancer is available from Burling Leong at her new nursery, Burlington Roses. Shadow Dancer is a valuable resource for breeding full sized striped roses. Highly recommended.
Link: www.burlingtonroses.com/
I tried some informal finger pollination on 'Roseraie de L’Ha
Thats great to hear, Paul 
Its always been on of my favorites in the garden for all 3 growing seasons. Its never specifically glamorous but its always consistant, pretty and easy to care for. Unlike Dortmund, its also a lot easier to keep in bounds during the growing season.
I’ve done a little bit more, but nothing really–
Moonsprite X Chanelle
(Prospero X Goldmoss) X (Scarlet Moss X Fakir’s Delight)
I think I’m done… it’s been difficult to do much since I’m doing other things that’s taking up my time.
Finishing up crosses for the season but had a few more:
Toy Clown x (1-71-1 x L83) …first hip in years to form on TC for me so far
Cinco de Mayo x Midnight Blue
Cinco de Mayo x Fresia
Fresia x Cinco de Mayo
Illusion x Starina
Quadra x Starina
Westerland x Starina
Rugosa #3 x Cinco de Mayo
Rugosa #3 x (Carefree Beauty x Rise n Shine) …thank you for the pollen Lawrence.
Hi!
Now its done.
Today I pollinated my last bud for this season.
It was an outstanding year for what I did pollinate and for what did germinate; my first hulthemia-blotch seedling germinated, also one R. stellata mirifica x Veilchenblau seedling.
And I did over 150 pollinations only on my R. stellata mirifica this year, a lot of them did work - I have got hips with already visible - and still greenish seeds from several combinations, some are totally new and never mentioned anywhere, even not as a odd possibility.
And now the number: All in all I did my 1606th bud pollination 20 minutes ago. ))
Hihi … Really 1606 buds! …
I think I’ll never again do so much in one season as I am totaly exhausted now - two months of running around and of thinking and of pollinating - just like a mad mad bee. In this mood you think you’ll go crazy, if only you walk past a rose bush in your town that shows some opening flowers … .
Its too much to do so EVERY year, I know.
But also I know that I will have again and again germinating seedlings throughout the next years out of that work of the last 8 weeks - and also a lot of experience what is working and what will not work.
All in all I had 296 combinations, some of them double and more to get a higher number.
Grx!
Arno
TreasureTrove hopefully all your hard work pays off. 1606 buds is quite a lot. I can not imagine doing that many. Perhaps one of these days. I did not do a lot of different combinations. Only about 15, but those 15 or so I did in bulk so hopefully they will yield something nice.
Hi Adam!
Thank you for your good wishes.Of course it will not always be the number that decides wheather something has good return or not.
I think that there will be years where I will focus only on a few combinations, also.
But ok, I did not plan that huge series in total, I planned about 600 pollinations or so.
One thing came to another, at last its such a crazy big number.
There where some combinations and parents in the series, which are known to be sterile, or nearly sterile, so I already started with pretty high numbers. On R. ecae I also did over 60-80 pollinations, have only 4 hips left (not exactly counted yet), but these ones are possibly of really great combination … - if they are not selfings or so … .
So - I got used to it - and opened not just 3 or 5 buds, but often 10 or 20 - or even more - with every new step.
Totally new experience for me - really I got a lasting headache now. 
Grx!
Arno
Rob,
As you have undoubtedly discovered, the 1-72-1 X L83 seedlings are quite fertile, usually in both directions. I hope it proves useful to you! A lot of really good genes in that group.
Paul
Rise n
I like these two crosses a lot. I usually dislike mini crosses.
Hot Tamale x William Baffin
Sequoia Gold x William Baffin
I would have loved to see Rosa foliosa x Rose Gilardi. That could possibly create an extremely intriguing and useful F1 hybrid
By the way, for all you mini fans. You must check out Cinnamon Girl by J/P. I usually LOATHE J/P roses. Theyre mostly garbage with a few rare gems here and there over the years. I bought Cinnamon Girl last February for my gf’s mom. Her cat died of kitty leukemia or something similar. I forgot. So, I bought her a rose as close in color as I could get. I couldnt decide between Cinnamon Girl or Coffee Bean (another one of the few excellent minis, imo). However, CB is too orange for what the cat looked like, so I gambled on Cinnamon Girl. Well, the color and plant habit is amazing. Its this odd rustic coral red with a cream reverse. When the blooms age, they pick up mauve tones. The clusters are huge and the form is exhibition style. The vigor is great too. It looks like it would set hips. I bring this all up here because its bred from Hot Tamale :)At any rate, it doesnt have disease up there in SE Washington. They usually get mildew instead of blackspot like here, so I have no clue on its bs resistance. I remember Hot Tamale as moderate in terms of bs resistance relative to other minis (ie. Rise n Shine, Irresistable and Glowing Amber are among the worst – Scarlet Moss, Cinderella and Playgold among the best). I hope CG winters well. Many minis arent always the greatest in terms of cold hardiness – although there is no reason they couldnt be in the future. I actually think they’d be more popular against the idea of using so many annuals in gardens if minis were properly compact, spray free and cold hardy. Its just that so many of them mature badly or lol, lethally, in untrained hands. Many home owners are the plant it and forget it type, afterall.
Maybe one of ya folk that uses minis a lot can give Cinnamon Girl a good look. btw, the online photos of it dont really look like it.
“I would have loved to see Rosa foliosa x Rose Gilardi.”
I was actually planning to do this cross but I ran out of pollen of Rose Gilardi. Next year I will try it. I also was going to try its pollen on Cornelia. Hopefully my plant will grow large enough so I can us it a lot more.
Jadae thanks for the complement. Overall I want to do miniature crosses that are crossed with something disease resistant or winter hardy. I did a lot of crosses that probably won’t bloom this next year but I do have a few that will.
I do have to say the idea of using William Baffin with miniatures is Paul Barden’s. I just have different miniatures then he does. I also think that I got the idea of using Carefree Beauty with miniatures from an article written by Lawrence Davis in the newsletter. If not from him then from some one else. I just read it and thought I wanted to try it. Using Cornelia and R. foliosa however I have been wanting to do for a while even before I was influenced by others.
I have sinned. I made more crosses =(
Solitaire x Salita,(Livin Easy x Baby Love), Royal Amethyst and Fragrant Plum
Shockwave x Camelot
Shockwave x Princess Alice
…in all fairness, I have been looking for something useful to combine Camelot with for years.
Most of crosses I did in June didn’t take, probably as Jim mentioned earlier due to day time temps right around 100 degree’s. I made the mistake of pruning all my pollen parents but not my seed parents… Seed parents bloomed
early and pollen parents bloomed later .I didn’t have much pollen to spread around. As you see I really scrounged pollen from anywhere I could get it. I have multiples of most of these crosses and I have a ton of op hips from the first flush. I should be busy this winter.
Hot Tamale X 1st Prize
Hot Tamale X Oregold
Hot Tamale X Julia Child
Hot Tamale X Kristin
Hot Tamale X Moonstone
Hot Tamale X Sun Flare
Hot Tamale X Honey Perfume
Loving Touch X Altissimo
Loving Touch X Midas Touch
Loving Touch X Julia Childs
Loving Touch X sun flare
Loving Touch X Oregold
Loving Touch X McCartney Rose
Sachet X Kristin
Sachet X June Laver
Avandel X 1st Prize
Avandel X Reiko
Avandel X Oregold
Avandel X Kristin
Avandel X Midas Touch
Avandel x McCartney Rose
Avandel X Iceberg
Avandel X Julia Childs
Avandel X Honey Perfume
Joycie X Reiko
Joycie X 1st Prize
Joycie X MoonStone
Joycie X Altissimo
Joycie X New Zealand
Joycie X Signature
Joycie X Kristin
Joycie X Midas Touch
Joycie X Tropicanna
Joycie X June Laver
Joycie X Cal Poly
Sequoia Gold x Kristin
Sequoia Gold X June Laver
Sequoia gold X Reiko
Sequoia Gold X Big John
Sequoia Gold X Over the Rainbow
Sequoia Gold X Midas Touch
Sequoia Gold X Sweet Surrender
Sequoia Gold X Tropicana
Sequoia Gold X Veterans Honor
Sequoia Gold X Julia Child
June Laver X Oregold
June Laver X Midas Touch
June Laver X Altissimo
June Laver X Honey Perfume
June Laver X Iceberg
June Laver X Kristin
June Laver X McCartney Rose
June Laver X Big John
June Laver X 1st Prize
Jadae - Shame on you! Actually I been thinking about doing the same thing. For the past few days I been watching Rose Gilardi buds developed and at the same time looking at Scabrosa and Ann Endt and wondering if they would bloom in time for hips to mature if the cross was successful. Both Scabrosa and Ann Endt are new plants but they seem vigorous enough to handle a few hips at least. But I do not know if they would mature in time. They would not bloom out for another week. I was thinking the next week until we got some unusually cool weather.
Have you tried Shockwave x (Livin Easy x Baby Love)? That should like a good cross to me.
Bill it looks like you will have a lot of miniatures coming a long. Good luck!
Adam, rugosa hips tend to mature more quickly though, so there could be time.
Bill, I like your wide crosses. It’s good to “mix up the pot” a bit to see what’s in there! It’s been said by others that you need about 100 seedlings from a particular cross to adequately test the range of possibilities. I have to agree that it is probably a good estimate. Some of your crosses might be worth multiplying in a bigger way depending on what you see in your seedlings next year.
Jadae, it’s true that we all sin now and then! I quit rose breeding for the year on June 30th, but I already have my eyes on a cross that I don’t think I can let go. If they bloom close enough together, a match will be made!
Adam, best wishes on your later crosses!
Jim Sproul
Paul,
I did use 1-72-1 X L83 in quite a few crosses and have found it quite fertile. Thank you for the seedling! I’m excited about several of the crosses made and hope some good things come from them. I’m hoping that the Toy Clown x (1-72-1 x L83) seeds bring out something useful in working towards fertile, healthy and hardy miniatures. I’ve also used pollen from your seedling on Illusion, Quadra, Westerland, Autumn Sunset, Midnight Blue, Abraham Darby and Crown Princess Margareta. Hopefully something nice comes through. Thanks again.
Rob
Oops, I missed reporting on two seed parents that I have separated from the rest of my seed parents.
Carefree beauty total crosses 10
Carefree Beauty X Olympiad
Carefree Beauty X Julia Childs
Carefree beauty X June Laver
Carefree beauty X McCartney Rose
Carefree beauty X Honey Perfume
Fairhope total crosses 48
Fairhope X McCartney Rose
Fairhope X Kristin
Fairhope X First Prize
Fairhope X Moondance
Fairhope X Cinco De Mayo
Fairhope X Midas Touch
Fairhome X Altissimo
Fairhope X Honey Perfume
Balance of crosses reported earlier in this post.
Hot Tamale total crosses 22
Loving Touch Total Crosses 13
Sachet total crosses 5
Avandel total crosses 23
Joycie total crosses 20
Sequoia Gold Total crosses 28
June Laver total crosses 22