It’s shooting out new growth all over quite quickly!
I’ve been sufficiently impressed with Plaisanterie to make it necessary to bring home Souv. de Rose Marie, Patricia Beucher and Apricot Bells, too. Trier with Mutabilis, no “Ballerina” involved! LOL!
“The foliage doesnt look like Flirtatious, Golden Showers or South Africa. I wonder where it came from?”
I know. Here’s a picture of all of the Flirtatious seedlings together. I’m separating them this week.
The one on the bottom (rounded and darker) is typical for Flirtatious.
The other two are obviously sister seedlings. From the two sister seedlings, the quickly fading cream is more fragrant than the non-fading yellow. The non-fading one has the best foliage.
All three of the seedlings share a characteristic that should make it easy to figure out the dad once I can go and look in the garden because they have very exaggerated, ciliate stipule appendages. I know I’ve seen them before- just can’t remember where.
The two with atypical foliage also have hypodermic needle-like prickers.
The normal one is so-far pricker-less but still has the same hairs as the others.
I’m using Flirtatious just because it’s an easy parent and has fairly decent disease resistance. I haven’t really been interested in stripes (but I wouldn’t object if I had some). I may look into getting a few bi-colors. I don’t believe I own any.
Kim, that vigorous seedling also has an abnormally fibrous root system as well. (horrible picture- dead batteries and I was doing a pot upgrade).
Thanks for thinking to look, Jon! It’s holding steady for the things I’ve dumped here, too. Healthy plants have huge root systems. Runts, awful foliages are attached to less well developed root systems, whether it’s genetic or something else has interrupted the root development. Good roots and good plants are inseparable.
Howdy every one , Howdy Kim,
I start my breeding programme very early spring here in Australia, what this enables me is the harvest of hips from late Jan into feb of hips and then stratification of seed. Most of my seed has germinated by May and grow out during winter ( Winter temps can range from min 3- -5c , max 15c) they are only bought in under cover at night incase of heavy frosts. Most of my seedlings are potted in 2" pots to maximize growth rates and after 2 cullings planted out in grow out beds in a field situation by August (late winter) .
Growing seedlings this way gives me a 6 mth advantage and one year old seedlings of growth rates of a 2year plant
cheers warren
today OP seedlings of Lady Angela, New Dawn and Westerland.
Rob, do post pics when they bloom. Curious to see what ND and W throw out. Not familiar with LA. Will look her up.
Jim
Jim,
Lady Angela is a Heritage x Westerland cross by Joan Monteith. It’s very pretty and fragrant Austin style rose that is very disease resistant and has great rebloom. I’m hoping some nice, fragrant OGR style rose comes from this batch. I’m also curious about what will come from the New Dawn seedlings. Hopefully there will be at least one with repeat bloom and excellent health so that I can use it in further breeding. I’ll definitely post pics when available.
Rob
Thanks Rob. Now that you mention the Lady Angela cross I remember seeing it on HMFRoses. It is pretty. I have both roses and thought at the time I should try it and see what I get. How are you doing with the weather. Richmond had just a tad bit of rain and above freezing temps. We lucked out. Looking forward to seeing the pictures when you get the first flowers.
Jim
We have been zonked with several snow storms and last night/today freezing rain…ugh!
I can’t wait to see my initials blooms and will post pics of anything decent. Thanks.
Rob
Remembrance x “Pretty Lady//Double Red Knock Out/Easy Does It/Yellow Brick Road mixed pollen”
and
Solitaire x “Sweetness/Citrus Burst/Orange Crush/Salita/Royal amethyst/Fragrant Plum/”
…are finally germinating. So, those are the first germinations of the year. Isnt that a mouthful? 
I am guessing that Pretty Lady and Orange Crush will be in the majority of these 2 batches.
Michael,
Are you hoping for any particular traits to come through these crosses?
Rob
The first cross is to retain some color, the branching habit, the cluster shape, and the wonderful foliage from the Maxi line. I really do not care which pollen parent takes though.
The second cross is for creating a stud parent of interesting climbers, obviously in the orange, mauve, blend, and striped categories. I can also hope for mauve bicolors.
I should have been more clear earlier. One of the prime reasons to use Remembrance is that it is the combination of decades of work with multiple lines of polyanthas from both lineages. It really shows in its plant habit, as well as its seedlings. It tends to produce seedlings like itself, which have really short internodal spacing. It is also hardier than most floribundas. It was unscathed during its winter in Walla Walla, WA, which is where I keep it. They had a snap freeze (70 degrees to 10 degrees in 2 days flat), yet Remembrance was just fine. Amber Queen and Singin in the Rain, which I love, were not so fortunate. Also, it has pretty intense pelargonidin saturation, germinates seed well, and has decent foliage. These are all wonderful traits for species hybrids. It was too bad I had to start over with Rosa virginiana because that would be the first thing on Remembrance. I cannot imagine it’d be hard to get good rebloom out of f2’s from a cross like that.
Remembrance really has great coloring. Good luck with you seedlings Michael.
Wow Michael, I hadn’t thought of that in years…“Wonderful Wino in Western Walla Walla!” LOL! Thanks for the laugh. Kim
lol, I call it Wa Wa Wa 
today:
Abraham Darby x (Golden Angel x L83)
I’d love an AD flower on a smaller plant. Not sure what to expect from this one though. Hopefully yellow to apricot, double and fragrant. Health should be good as should repeat bloom.
Ho Kim - thanks to you, Hans (Bierkreek)has earmarked Darlows Enigma, Matchball, Jaqueline Humery,(having a bit of a white moment) Patricia Beucher and Tolstoi for me. Yeehaw!
Rob, a percentage should be climber/pillars, I am guessing.