1st germination of the season

Aha, Joan, as a complete novice myself, nothing is more interesting than hearing from others who are further down the road from me…but not so impossibly distant they are an unreachable speck on the horizon. report all, please.

Slowly they arrive… All this nice, sunny, warm weather and ONE more seedling. Torch of Liberty X DLFED5.

Yesterday there was Quadra OP germination. The ancestry of this Kordesii hybrid is really interesting and I’m looking forward to see what comes of this. There should definitely be high disease resistance and hardiness and I’m hoping for a nice red that is fully double.

Link: www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.3438.1

First ones poked their little heads up last week–OP seedlings of “Matchball”. Excellent germination so far, and the mother plant is extremely vigorous, so I might try and use it for some crosses this year.

Today:

Midnight Blue x Illusion

Midnight Blue x Cherry Sunblaze

Hoping for either DARK red or purple but I know there will be pinks darn it. Sure am pleased with germination of Midnight Blue seeds.

Had a little first bloom today.

Golden Showers x mixed pollen

Is it a yellow bloom Jon?

More of an apricot I guess. Quickly fading- no fragrance. Foliage looks like it might be nice. It has a much different character than the other two Golden Shower seedlings (which are taller and haven’t bloomed and have more conventional foliage as well).

I did get a strong yellow with decent fragrance from Flirtatious this year (sister seedling to that other cream one I showed here somewhere a month or so ago). It has very dark, excellent looking foliage as well. Bloomed on the 13th.

BUT…this:


still has to be my favorite seedling this year. From seed to this in three, under four, months. Has to be some sort of record for vigor (inside under artificial light). Unfortunately I suspect it will be non-remontant.

Sorry Jon. My pc security at work blocked the picture from downloading. Didn’t know you posted the pic until I got home and looked again. Love the color on the second pic.

Jon,

If you have mentioned it before, could you again give the parents of the last pic of the yellow seedling you showed.

Not sure if that also was Flirtatious x?. Want to be sure!

Thanks,

Jim

Bye the way, it’s a beauty, lovely foliage too.

Jim, for the most part- with just a few exceptions, I used mixed yellow pollen (Golden Showers, South Africa, and a few others) on just about everything last year. I wanted to make sure I had some yellows this year.

The foliage doesnt look like Flirtatious, Golden Showers or South Africa. I wonder where it came from?

BTW, if you want to bring out the stripes and add stronger tones/fade-resistance, then think about bicolors, especially those where both sporting stripes and sporting other colors is a genetic pattern throughout a line. Example: Something from Picadilly, Signora, Henri Mallerin, Fandango, etc. Some of these line branches of the Rosa foetida bicolor effect seem to strengthen this bold striping effect in modern roses. The whole Jacob’s Robe (Autumn Sunset x Playboy) ordeal with the light striping is a bit confusing, until one realizes that it has both Piccadilly, Peace and Fandango right there close genetically. Which reminds me, have you considered crossing it Flirtatious with Colorific (is Kim fainting yet? hehe)? Both Colorific and Jacob’s Robe are pretty healthy In Portland, which is no surprise. The former has super dynamic color and the latter has an extremely healthy plant. The blooms of Jacob’s Robe are a bore but they have latent potential. The foliage is like pleather on a kid-safe sofa, lol.

Aw, Mike! I don’t faint! I planted a Jacob’s Robe a month ago to replace the gawdawful Ballerina in a client’s garden. I felt terrible sending Ballerina off to the green waste recycle as I know it will taint the product, but I feared it might get loose if buried! So far, what I understand is JR has a touch of mildew in these parts.

That doesnt surprise me. The leaves are thin (like the petals), which seems to be a Westerland trait inherited from Golden Masterpiece, and the plant is vigorous. This is usually a good set-up for mildew, regardless if it is genetically resistant.

Bukavu > Ballerina. Actually, I seriously dont understand the appeal of Ballerina. First Light, which was bred from it, is pretty nice though. Its like a healthy floribunda version of Dainty Bess on steroids.

I researched all the Lens hybrid multifloras before going to Eurodesert two weeks ago to deliberately avoid as much Ballerina as possible. I completely understand how beneficial using it is for that type of climate, but it is just downright an AWFUL, hateful thing in a long, warm season area.

Kim,

If you’re looking at Lens’ hybrid multifloras, “Matchball” has been very impressive so far here in the Pacific Northwest. I got it as a band from Eurodesert in late 2009, stuck it in the ground, and had to step back out of its way–VERY vigorous rose. It’s grown like a weed, bloomed like crazy, and set OP hips very well. It’s been my first set of seeds to germinate this year, and at the rate it’s going it should have a very high percentage of germination. Don’t know how it would be in your area, but really looks like it’s going to be a super rose here.

Thanks Sharon. The closest I went toward that effect was back to Jacqueline Humery, which Mr. Lens sent me many years ago, in a large box full of goodies as thanks for many things I “enabled” him to obtain. I was looking for increased disease resistance and Ballerina-less creativity. Jacqueline can look like a huge hydrangea on steroids with absolutely beautiful foliage.

This one also followed me home…

Link: www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.21419.0&tab=1

I just ordered Guirlande d’Amour from Eurodesert a couple of weeks ago…looks like a winner!