I am just going to list the ones I did alot. Their are several ones that may have one to three hips but these crosses have ten or more.
Anne Endt x Hot Tamale
Anne Endt x Cupcake
Anne Endt x Gala
Anne Endt x (Rise n Shine x L83)
Newport Fairy x Scabrosa (most of these have failed already)
Newport Fairy x Hot Tamale
Hansa x Hot Tamale
Darts Dash x Hot Tamale
Darts Dash x Cupcake
Sequoia Gold x (Rise n Shine x L83) The pollen parent came about from L83 pollen from Paul Barden
Sequoia Gold x {((Folksinger x Illusion) x Carefree Beauty)op} Pollen parent seed was from Henry Kuska
The resulting plant is a small pink shrub. Does not look like it repeats bloom. Seems very hardy and is powdery mildew resistant. It has been hit by blackspot but it also gets hit by the neighbors sprikler every night.
Sequoia Gold x Love & Peace (Lim)
Sequoia Gold x Eyeconic Pink Lemonade
Hot Tamale x Eyeconic Pink Lemonade
Hot Tamale x Love & Peace (Lim)
Hot Tamale x Fa’s Marbled Moss This pollen is from Fara.
Suntan Beauty x Eyeconic Pink Lemonade
Suntan Beauty x Love & Peace (Lim)
Gala x Love & Peace (Lim)
Gala x (Rise n Shine x L83)
Winsome x (Rise n Shine x L83)
Have no idea if Secret Recipe is a good seed parent.
Secret Recipe x (Rise n Shine x L83)
Secret Recipe x Fa’s Marbled Moss
Testing this as a parent with some of the healthier roses
Gene Boerner x (Rise n Shine x L83)
Gene Boerner x Baby Love
Gene Boerner x Easy Does It
Most of these Teddy Bear crosses have failed. Last year it was a decent parent this year a horriable one.
Teddy Bear x (Rise n Shine x L83)
Teddy Bear x Eyeconic Pink Lemonade
Teddy Bear x {((Folksinger x Illusion) x Carefree Beauty)op}
This one seed parent has set defently set hips. Now we will see if they sprout.
{((Folksinger x Illusion) x Carefree Beauty)op} x Suntan Beauty
{((Folksinger x Illusion) x Carefree Beauty)op} x Pam’s Choice
As a seed parent this seedling has failed. A few of the Love & Peace ones remain
(Rise n Shine x L83) x Love & Peace (lim)
(Rise n Shine x L83) x Touch of Class
(Rise n Shine x L83) x {((Folksinger x Illusion) x Carefree Beauty)op}
(Rise n Shine x L83) x Intrigue
(Rise n Shine x L83) x Pam Choice
Pam’s Choice x Baby Love
Have not really tried this as a parent in the past
Ballerina x Sequoia Gold
Ballerina x Hot Tamale
Ballerina x Suntan Beauty
Ballerina x Newport Fairy
Ballerina x Gala
Ballerina x Teddy Bear
Easy Does It x Sterling Silver
Easy Does It x Touch of Class
Easy Does It x (Rise n Shine x L83)
The second flush on Gala is starting to open and I am going to finish the Fa’s Marbled Moss pollen on it.
The blooms left on ballerina, Hansa, Darts Dash and Anne Endt will be the miniatures I have not used yet on them.
R. foliolosa over the past several years I have hit it with species and rugosa pollen. This year I am going to hit it with mostly miniature and some pollen from Newport Fairy.
Most of the crosses I’ve done so far used the species R. rubus as one of the parents. Here are some that I remember off the top of my head:
R. rubus x (The Gift x unknown)
R. rubus x (Mr Bluebird x unknown)
R. rubus x (Lyda Rose x Lorraine Lee) *
R. rubus x Lyda Rose
R. rubus x Lilac Charm
R. rubus x Magic Wand *
R. rubus x Mons. Tillier *
R. rubus x Mutabilis *
R. rubus x Robin Hood
R. rubus x Excellenz von Schubert
R. rubus x Fabulous!
R. rubus x R. transmorrisonensis
marks the the ones that I’ve done the most. I also did the reverse cross in most cases. I haven’t used R. rubus before, so I don’t know how fertile it is when crossed with other roses. I haven’t done as many crosses as I would like because the #$^&@ deer keep eating the buds before I can get to them.
Blue For You x Eyes For You--------> poor seed set, got a small number of seeds per hip ------->zero germinations… seed was opened and confirmed useless.
The Fairy x OP R. clinophylla ------->seed collected, but later thrown out, lost interest in clino.
The Fairy x OP R. foliolosa ------> several false hips / zero seed inside.
Flower Carpet White x Eyes For You ----> Late pollinations, got some hips which are still ripening / still green (winter now).
Ebb Tide x Eyes For You -----> several rounds over the entire season all failed to set hips, the last lot of pollinations resulted in 7 hips, now starting to change color in early winter (some still green tho, I am leaving them all on the bush till they all turn orange).
Ebb Tide x Alain Blanchard -------> zero hips.
Gardener’s Glory x St Patrick ----> 6 hips, taking foreverrrrrrrrrrrr to turn color (still green after any months on the bush…based on that I know I should collect 'em … but… I’m scared to do so … lol).
Gardener’s Glory x Alain Blanchard ------> zero hips.
Double Knock Out x various ------> zero hips.
Pope John Paul II x Eyes For You -----> zero hips.
Jubilee Celebration x Eyes For You ------> late single pollination on a very tiny plant gave a surprisingly easy take and a nice fat hip, still green almost ready to turn color now in early winter.
I did not collect OP seeds (EDIT : ohh…yes I got some OP from Elina and got zero germinations…but maybe I should have collected more OP seeds especially off some of my diploids e.g the Fairy, and some other OP seedling diploids I have).
I did 76 crosses and then we had a day hit 111 and boom, MOST of them were lost, except for the ones that I did very early in April. All I can say is:
(((((((((((( @#$%^&*()_!!!
Anyway, I will have to rely on those and some open pollinated blooms to feed my hip harvesting in August.
You’ll notice I used a lot of McCartney, not that it’s a particularly good parent (it’s not) but I’m hoping to import the mother plant’s growth habit and health into the seedlings but keep the McCartney fragrance (and maybe color) in the seedlings. I have done that in the past, getting one very nice healthy seedling with that great perfume.
Fabulous! makes a great mother, producing lots of mildew-proof offspring and often good heat resistance, too. Unfortunately many of the seedlings tend to be white.
Sweet Milo is one of my seedlings that is INTENSELY fragrant with a delicious baby powder & spice fragrance that often can be detected from 4 feet away. Great color too, and mildew resistant. 'Sweet Milo™' Rose
So here’s what’s left of those that I pollinated:
Lynn Anderson x Frivolous Pink (said to be sterile and this is the first time the pollen has been successful for me - YAY!)
Lynn Anderson x Crescendo
(Diana, Princess of Wales x Marilyn Monroe) x Lynn Anderson
Marilyn Monroe x (Louise Estes x Marilyn Monroe)
Julia Child x McCartney
Fabulous! x Julia Child
Fabulous! x Chihuly
Fabulous! x Sweet Milo
Fabulous! x Bees Knees
Fabulous! x McCartney
Flower Power x McCartney
Diana Princess of Wales x Marilyn Monroe
(Louise Estes x Marilyn Monroe) x Julia Child & Sorbet Bouquet (mixed pollen)
Those are some really fun combinations! I can’t wait to see what results from many of them. “Dots Enuf”, how fun!
My crosses have fallen into just a few “threads” this year.
1-72-1Hugonis (as seed and pollen parent) with:
Sunburn
Rayon Butterfed
Lauren
Wild Dancer
Doc
Secret Garden
First Impression
L56-1
Sweet Nothings
Astra
Pretty Lady
Indian Love Call
Mrs. Charles Bell
Lilac Charm
Prairie Lass
Cecil
Golden Wings
Gold Badge
Golden Horizon
Gina’s Rose
Pink Petticoat
Purpurea
Gloria Mundi
White Cecile Brunner
Pink Gate
DLFED4
DLFED3
Comtesse du Cayla
Tom Thumb
Pink Petticoat
Indian Love Call as seed and pollen with:
Pretty Lady
Tom Thumb
Secret Garden
April Mooncrest
Purezza
Banksiae lutescens
Purpurea
LynPoO
Doc
Wild Dancer
Werner von Blom
Comtesse du Cayla
Rayon Butterfed
Fedtschenkoana
Gardens of the World
L56-1
First Impression as seed and pollen:
1-72-1Hugonis
Banksiae lutescens (seed)
Purezza (seed)
Art Nouveau
Eyes for You
Persian Autumn (pollen)
Persian Flame (pollen)
April Mooncrest seed and pollen:
Tom Thumb
Werner von Blom
Gloria Mundi
Secret Garden
LynPoO
Rayon Butterfed
Eyes for You
81-02-09
Gardens of the World
Kordes Brilliant
Miracle on the Hudson
Old Master
Picasso
Cal Poly as seed:
Purezza
Banksiae lutescens
Fedtschenkoana
LynPoO
April Mooncrest
Rayon Butterfed
Lauren
Manetti as seed:
April Mooncrest
Secret Garden
Werner von Blom
Gloria Mundi
Lauren
LynPoO
Blue for You
And a ton of others I didn’t write down and can’t remember as I type these. I know the vermin and heat will get many of them, but hopefully, enough of the ones I really want will make it out the other side.
Fara… ‘Forty-Two’ x ‘Song of the Stars’ needs to be called ‘Douglas Adams’… or ‘So Long and Thanks for all the Fish’
Here’s mine:
Alice Amos x ? (lost tag)
Alice Amos x DKO
Alice Amos x Purple Rain
Angel Wings x Titian
Borderer x ? (lost tag)
Borderer x Ebb Tide
Borderer x Mutabilis
Borderer x Wildcat
Bullseye x ? (lost tag)
Bullseye x Angel Wings
Bullseye x Anne Hall
Bullseye x Borderer
Bullseye x Brindabella Bouquet
Bullseye x DKO
Bullseye x Dresden Doll
Bullseye x Ebb Tide
Bullseye x Heritage
Bullseye x Iceberg
Bullseye x Mutabilis
Bullseye x Nuits de Young
Bullseye x Papageno
Bullseye x Rosa Davidii var elongata
Bullseye x Roundelay
Bullseye x Sunny South
Bullseye x Tuscany Superb
Bullseye x Wildcat
FCP x ? (lost tag)
FCP x Black Jade
FCP x Ebb Tide
FCP x Graham Thomas
FCP x Lorraine Lee
FCP x Wildcat
FCP x Borderer
FCP x Lav. Pin.
Fire n Ice x The Fairy
Fire n Ice x Wichurana
Immensee x bracteata
Immensee x FCW
Immensee x Mutabilis
Immensee x New Hampshire
Immensee x Old Port
Immensee x Papageno
Immensee x setigera
Immensee x Sinowilsonii
Many Happy Returns x ? (lost tag)
Many Happy Returns x Carabella
Mutabilis x The Fairy
Nahema x Bullseye
OPK206-1 x OP 0-47-19
Papageno x wichurana
Rugosity x Madame Joseph Schwartz
Rugosity x Wichurana
Softee x Bracteata
Softee x Cornelia
Softee x The Fairy
Sweetflora x M. Tillier
Temple Bells x DKO
Temple Bells x Madame Joseph Schwartz
Temple Bells x Sinowilsonii
Temple Bells x The Fairy
Temple Bells x Therese Bugnet
Thinleaf x Mutabilis
Thinleaf x The Fairy
Trier x Brindabella Bouquet
TTBL x Tarrawarra
Wildcat x Cornelia
Wildcat x Wichurana
FCW = Flower Carpet White
FCP = " " Pink
TTBL = Test Tube Baby Love
DKO = Double Knock Out
There is also a swag of OPs collected this year from things that interest me or were sent to me by friends from around the world.
When I was planning my crosses I made a spread sheet of the crosses I wanted to do over the next few years… this is a small fraction of them. I added another column of WHY I was doing the crosses. There are lots of crosses to go, mostly with tet. species while I wait for them to mature to flowering size/age. This year was the year of the wichurana-crosses. Names in blue are my own seedlings so won’t all have HMF listings… tho9ugh some do.
I think we should have some pretty amazing seedling photos for the next few years! Oh, I forgot Bashful added to the polys I played with and am playing with this year.
I’ve gone a little nuts with the pollen blending this year, thanks in part to the recent thread on the topic. I’ve also been way too busy and haven’t had nearly as much time to pollinate as I’d like.
Off the top of my head…
Morden Belle x Henry Hudson/Smoothie
Prairie Joy x HH/SM
Morden Belle x PDKO
PDKO Blend = Pink Double Knock Out/Harisons Yellow that had been sitting out for a week/((calocarpa x nutkana) x acicularis)–courtesy of Jackie
I put that on all sorts of things, including a nice Apothecary x Morden Blush or KO seedling that is blooming because of the severely mild winter.
Betsy’s Blend (rugosa pollen from B. V.d.H. that consists of Trollhatten, Magnifica, Schneekoppe, and Anne Endt) on:
Young Lycidas
Prairie Joy
Other things
PDKO x Prairie Peace
PDKO x Aurora (Erskine’s acicularis selection)
Prairie Joy x Prairie Peace
Carefree Beauty x Xanthina/Smoothie
Therese Bugnet x Xanthina/Smoothie
Home Run x OP Winnipeg Parks
Home Run x Aurora
My 11Z29 is a compact, single, everblooming, and healthy Prairie Joy x Knock Out seedling…used it on a lot of things including All a’Twitter and OR…can’t remember what OR stands for. Same for “CP” (aha…Cal Poly!) (aha…Orchid Romance!)
Here, it is totally healthy. It is very fragrant with massive clusters of quite lovely flowers. The sepals are extremely attractive. All the flowering growth is intensely scented (sepals, peduncles, etc.), and I don’t see anything “commercial” created from it. Moschata hybrids (not “hybrid musks”) are very successful here. They love this climate and I want to see what else might be possible. I have Secret Garden, the found Moschata type or hybrid (who knows?) and the escaped Manetti which are definitely out of Moschata. Lamarque is here and also intensely happy, but the prior two are much more closely related. Though Reve d’Or is traditionally held to be one, there is no provable link with Moschata, so I grow and enjoy it, but don’t wish to use it yet. Besides, RdO mildews and none of the others suffer that indignation.
So, it’s to see the “what if” in hopes of raising highly scented, climate suitable, repeat flowering roses (hopefully without prickles, but you can’t have everything) using material which hasn’t previously been explored in that direction. Besides, as Ralph always said when I’d ask why he used something, “because, I HAD it!”.
Re: Heat and Hips - I generally don’t get hip loss once the hip is well established. But 110 temps with wind a few days after pollinating is not good. Currently it’s 113.5F in the yard. Humidity is 14%. How anything can live in that is amazing!
On the plus side, those seedlings from last year’s crosses, that are truely heat-resistant, will get a chance to show their stuff!
Re: Heat and Hips - I generally don’t get hip loss once the hip is well established. But 110 temps with wind a few days after pollinating is not good. Currently it’s 113.5F in the yard. Humidity is 14%. How anything can live in that is amazing!
On the plus side, those seedlings from last year’s crosses, that are truely heat-resistant, will get a chance to show their stuff!
Judith, though your heat is a few degrees higher than what I used to experience, it is pretty much in line with what I have encountered in Wasco where roses have been produced for decades. Most roses, though not at their beautiful best, produce the best plants with fewest diseases (provided water is sufficient) in high temps and low humidity like that. The best foliage I’ve ever grown was in high nineties to low hundreds, low humidity with hours of overhead, oscillating sprinkler for nearly a week many years ago in Newhall. Water wasn’t the issue it is now, so leaving the sprinkler on to flood the area wasn’t seen as ‘wasteful’ or otherwise bad. Those plants, leaves and flowers were positively stunning and huge! No bugs, no diseases and growth, flowers and leaves everywhere.
It’s good to see you getting some hips out of ‘Ann Endt’. It sets loads of OP hips here (I have about 50 atm full of seeds ready to go in the fridge if anyone wants some), but I’ve only been able to get modern pollen to stick to it once (‘Ann Endt’ x ‘Cricket’) and some animal ate it before I could harvest it. You’ve encouraged me to work with it more next season… rust is not an issue here so I am thinking I will pair it with ‘Playboy’ if I can finally get a ‘Playboy’ to grow (onto number three), ‘Ebb Tide’ and a few Teas. I found it hard to work with too as you have to get in really early to avoid selfing and it selfs very easily. It’s OP seedling, “Rugosity”, has proven to be a more reliable seed parent. I don’t know what the pollen parent was but it is semi-double, fully recurrent, and very fertile so far. Will be interesting to see if its seeds germinate as easily as 'Ann Endt’s seeds do.
Some very interesting crosses. Alot of these I can’t even begin to picture what will come out of them. So I can’t wait to see what comes from them.
Simon. It looks like 20% of the hips are sticking on Ann Endt. It seems all hips hold for 3 weeks and then over half fall off. I am not sure what percent on the other rugosas yet but it probably will be similar. I am sure there is plenty of selfs seeds in these hips. It has been pretty much impossiable for me to prevent some self pollunation. So I wet the stigma let it dry and do my best. I have been flooding the stigmas with the modern pollen. When I say flood I mean flood. I am only using the miniature pollen on a few thing so I figure what the hell I got plenty around and maybe this will improve the chances. I been trying on evey flower of these I can get a hold of. I just hope when it all said and done I have a few good hybrids and not selfs. I have not been able to get rugosa pollen to set on modern miniatures so maybe this way will work. If it does not work well I will try again and again until it does. I don’t really have much to loss and I have only so much room for seedlings that will take more than one year to bloom for the first time. So if most fail than that is all right. Maybe I will hunt down a plant of Anytime and try on it. It seems like it accepts anything. Good luck on your crosses. I do love how Anne Endt seed just germinates like weeds. It nice when you have a few plants that germinate like that considering all the roses that make you wait or totally refuse to germinate. Anne Endt may not be the best rugosa but it is an easy plant to work with. I can’t wait to see how Dart’s Dash does. This is the first year I will be able to use it. I will keep you posted on these crossses.
(((((((((((( @#$%^&*()_!!!