new blooms for 2013

Roses for Hybridizing
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Andre that does sound like an interesting side project.

Jim your ‘Pomegranate Lemonade’ X “Basye’s Thornless” has very hypnotic flowers. Or at least the picture makes it look that way.

Rob I have several seedlings from Pink Lemonade that have bloomed so far. Like yourself I have not seen a eye. Most have been yellow. I thinking some may have an eye under the eye zone. I think Jim said that yellow in the eyezone is dominate to the hulmethia eye. If I remember right most of the parents used had a yellow eye. Anyways I too will have to try again this year but I have gotten three plants out of it that I really like so far. Two completely yellow seedlings and the a red with white seedling. All are fragrant and looking like blooming machines. Hopefully they will be great outside.

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Open pollinated All the Rage:

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Jim-that is a beautiful offspring of "Pomegranate Lemonade’ X “Basye’s Thornless”, nice color, nice eye, and great eye shadow. I am guessing it also follows that it has great health?

Kim that is a great Art Nouveau X April Mooncrest yellow. This must be the year of the yellow. Anything that I thought might be remotely yellow is screaming yellow.

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Thank you for the nice comments about this Basye’s Hulthemia. Rob, yes there is the darker center with another larger area of streaking of the blotch onto the petals. Many of the newer Hulthemias are showing this effect. Adam, there is certainly something about the genetics of the Hulthemias that I am still learning. Some modern roses crossed with them do a fairly good job of showing the blotch, while with others, I may get a good blotch in one out of a hundred seedlings. And wouldn’t you know it, the crosses where it is most difficult to get blotches are with the Radler roses and ‘Thrive!’. One other thing to be aware of is that the blotch is sometimes very faint in new seedlings, but will darken with maturity. Jackie, so far this one looks clean to powdery mildew (none on it and there is plenty of it in the greenhouse).

Here are a couple other new Hulthemias. The first is of another Basye’s Hulthemia. The next is from a cross of L56-1 X M62. L56-1 is a child of ‘Thrive!’ and has also proven very difficult with the blotch, but this seedling shows it quite well. The last photo is of a seedling that I am hopeful will have good cleanliness.

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Those are very nice Hulthemias, Jim, congratulations! I’m thrilled you have them combined with Legacy. There is such great health and vigor possible from those genes.

Jim’s L56-1 is this red single. It seems to accept most pollen well and its pollen has worked just as well.

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These are today’s seedling blooms.

The mini Cal Poly X Pretty Lady, much smaller than the previous lighter toned flower.

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Pretty Lady X Lynnie…Lynnie pink, go figure.

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Art Nouveau X April Mooncrest larger yellow bloom after two days of intense, hot sun. The color is lasting rather well and the flower really is large for such a small seedling.

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I’d say this must be a cross…Kim Rupert X 0-47-19DLFED. It didn’t flower last year, but waited for this year to produce this single, unstriped, pink.

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Jim your last photo looks very much like one of my three favorite Eyeconic Pink Lemonade seedlings except the blotch is missing. I don’t know about you but it seems to me Eyeconic Pink Lemonade breeds heavy bloomers so far. At least under lights. Do you always get those distinctive thorns on your seedlings. It seems all the seedlings I got or at least most have long straight thin thorns that come up to the sepals themselves. But I did only did a few crosses with Hot Tamale, Suntan Beauty, (Rise N shine x L83), and I think Easy Does It. (Rise N Shine L83) and Easy Does It failed. Easy Does It acted weird this past year. All the first flush failed to produce seed but almost all the second flush produced seed. Most my seedlings come from seeds from the first flush of flowers. But back to the subject I will have to try Eyeconic Pink Lemonade on a wider selection of parents and try to use it as a seed parent. I did have op seed of it but they got a weird mold that when I see it always spells doom for the seed.

I like the second flower a lot. It makes the illusion that it doesn’t have a blotch but a white halo in the center of the flower.

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The pink Pretty Lady X Lynnie opening bud became this today.

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The smaller flowered Cal Poly X Pretty Lady opened.

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Thank you Kim. I hope that L56-1 gives you something great!

Hi Adam, the earlier Hulthemias were quite thorny and so are many of the newer ones, however, I am moving toward lower thorns and was very pleased with “O352” since it is nearly thornless (I have only seen a couple of smaller thorns at the base of the plant, even the rachis is prickle free). I have attached a photo of it.

As for breeding, of the ones released, I like Lemonade the best, but mainly as a pollen parent. Pomegranate is good for blotch production and good heat stability of the blotch, but I do not like the plant. It is mainly useful as a seed parent.

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I love this time of year when I can vicariously enjoy the fruits of other folks’ labors!

Neat seedlings all around!

Jim, I love those psychedelic splotches. I’m really keeping my fingers crossed for the last of your new seedlings. It would be interesting to know if there is a particular cultivar in the RAdler lines that squelches the spot. That’s a drag! I certainly would have looked at Brite Eyes or Rainbow KO as a prospective parent, as well as HomeRun and a number of others… Frustrating…

I have yet to play with your lines. Is there a hulthemia cultivar of yours which is more resistant to BS than others?

(Amazing splotch on that final post!)

Thanks to all for sharing!

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Seedlings are beginning to bloom here in Texas. This one is Open Pollinated Francis Dubrieul X Ebb Tide. Nice blue undertones and some fragrance.

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Here are a few of the yellows that I trimmed off yesterday-missed trimming off the seedling blooms the day before, and I thought a group portrait was in order. Remember these are seedlings, so there isn’t a lot of stem.

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And here is a rather nice non fading deep red, on a vigorous plant. Took a little longer to open, but was open for two days of hot windy weather and did not burn.

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Oh Jackie, that red is just glorious!

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Thanks Joan, I am somewhat a sucker for that deep mysterious red, and just hate it when they brown out if the sun hits them. But oftentimes the survivors do not seem all that vigorous.

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Jackie, what is the parentage of the red one? I have a deep red from 2008 that is an OP Francis Dubrieul that looks very similar.

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Thank you everyone for posting your pictures! It’s such a great education to see so the results of so many crosses.

Jim, your 0352 is gorgeous!!!

I have splotch envy…

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Joan, This seedling is a pretty modern mix of (Rt 66 x Singing In The Rain) X Orange Fire. It only has a light fragrance, and no blue undertones, but this is only its’ first bloom. The nice thing is that it is very vigorous, will probably be a large shrub, but with Orange Fire that is to be expected. Will have more blooms soon as it has two more buds. I left the bloom on two more days after that photo and there was no fading or lightening of color. So many of the dark ones are weather dependant, esp. the ones with a bit of purple in them. I have only seen Francis D., does it pass on its’ fragrance easily?

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I have a number of seedlings from Rt66, some very dark red, some brown badly, some don’t at all. This seedling (I affectionately call “Clem”) is a very purple red and does not brown or fade, starts out deep blood red then gets more purple which I really like. So hard to capture the color though! Any tricks to capturing reds properly?

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That is a lovely purple, Judith. Remember when that color was a rarity and you just couldn’t find it?

Here are the seedling photos from today…

Suntan Beauty X DLFED 4, the first flower from a “what it?” I probably won’t retain.

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Nature showing her sense of humor. Pink Petticoat X Sweet Nothings. Healthy, apparently vigorous, single and white.

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The aging Pretty Lady X Lynnie.

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Art Nouveau selfed, the clean, vigorous one with the pretty sepals. More double than the original. It may, or may not, eventually show more yellow. The original is extremely variable.

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Pink Petticoat X 0-47-19DLFED.

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A second Pink Petticoat X 0-47-19DLFED.

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An intermediate sized 0-47-19DLFED X Tom Thumb. This one flowered last year, its first year.

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Suntan Beauty X Indian Love Call.

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And a darker colored seedling from the same cross. Both are apparently without prickles.

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Jackie, my Francis Dubrieul seedling has a nice “old rose” fragrance.

Judith, that purple is beautiful.

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Kim-Love the vanilla-ish flowers from the Pink Petticoat x 0-47-19DLFED cross. Does the Pink Petticoat have any influence on reducing the thorns with its’ crosses? How is that(the vanilla one) seedling for thorns? One of my concerns with the DLFED3 are the thorns. The health and vigor are great-since every cutting rooted gangbusters, I have several in pots below the bench, and quite unbelievably they have just stretched a bit to reach more sunlight, but not a trace of mildew which is breaking out all over right now and it has not kept them from budding up in their little one gal pots.