Some nice flower seedlings there Adam, not only a rose breeder but, an artist by some of the shots in your photos that lives in a very cold place looking at the first shot’
Hello everybody. I am new to this forum and I like to grow roses from seeds. No intented crosses, just OP seeds.
Please take a look at what I have this year.
The first three photos are the first blooms of three ‘Ebb Tide’ seedlings. All three are wonderfully fragrant.
This is the darkes of the three. It had two buds, one already bloomed and the second is about a week away from opening.
This one has the strongest fragrance and has total of eleven buds on it. Very bushy.
This one has the largest flower of the three (about 2"), very nice bushy growth
I don’t know the parentage of the fourth seedling - my puppy knocked down the seeds. This one has seven buds on it (hard to beleive that this is just the first flowering). It is not opened yet, but already shows some color.
I have about a dozen more seedlings with buds, but they are still too small.
Very nice seedlings of “Ebb Tide” Marina, Welcome to the forum, could you explain your process of seed raising please.
Thank you Adam.
I use a sodium lamp Philips Son-T AGRO 600W. But I’m going to return to fluorescent lamp. They are more energy efficient and produce less heat which is important when you need the lower teperature for germination at the same time.
Thank you, David.
My process is plain and simple - collect the hips, clean the seeds, stratify them in refrigerator for about two months in moistened paper towels, then check seeds frequently for germination and transfer germinated ones to the Jiffy pellets.
After seedlings develop about two true leaves, I transfer them to plastic cups (about 10oz) with Miracle Gro potting soil. Once in a while I fertilize young plants with very diluted fish fertilizer.
My setting:
[(Solitaire x Baby Love) x (Solitaire x Baby Love)] just shot up a ton of germinations, which is good because Baby Love itself is a poor seed parent. I could not remeber why I did this cross, which is of the highly vigorous, healthy, bright primrose white, and rain/heat-proof miniflora, when I recalled that I wanted to create a way to replicate the virtues onto species types without losing the mini genes. I recall doing this because I thought so poorly of every potential white or blush miniature parent canidate, with the exception of some diploid types that looked too genetically messy to deal with.
All of the Trumpeter germinations have extremely varying leaflet colors, between lime green to dark red.
I’ll have new blooms to show by June, Im sure. Forcing them indoors requires too much in resources from me, in my opinion.
PacificJade I really find it a bit annoying when I can’t think why I did a cross. Most of the time I settle on the reason that is what must have been blooming at the time. I second Baby Love being a horrible mom. I think the one year I must have planted a hundred or more op seeds to have three very weak seedlings pop up.
Marina those are much better seedlings than I got my first go around. Great job.
David I do like to paint. Not sure if I am that good at it but I enjoy it and that is what matters. I know a guy who loves to bowl but boy does he throw a lot of splits which leads to his other passion cussing so I guess it all works out for him. Compared to your climate I would be cold but to the many members who live in places like Canada and the Great Lakes my climate is mild. I do not envy them one bit. In winter I usually do not see that much moisture but every once in a while the storm comes in just the right way and it runs into the foothills (small mountains) that border my area on three sides and it just dumps on us then. Usually it just blows right over and I am lucky to get a drop. A couple of days before this picture was taken it was 73 degrees F out or about 21 C.
Oh wow, Jackie, that first one is beautiful and the colors on the second are too!
Paul, I love seeing how different the end results are from a single cross. Love the last white one.
You have a gret set up and crop there, Adam!
Marina already knows I’m crazy about hers!
I’m having another very disappointing year. I have had very few germinations and a lot of those have died off once planted. I only have a dozen or so seedlings now and even those aren’t doing much growing so not a single bud yet.
Marina the colour saturation of those purples is very good, the little proliferation in the second one may go away, but as it becomes bigger and the blooms become larger, it will be hidden inside.
Warren, I have a seedling probably four years old (OP from ‘Mme. Ernest Calvat’). The buds are packed with petals, it always has difficulty opening, also proliferation does not go away. Is this considered a ‘deadly’ defect? I probably should dig this one out, although, it will be a pity because the color and form are very nice.
Some times to many petals can be a problem, I have this rose which averages around 200 petals but needs big heat to open fully, when it does, its quite nice with a big scent. You will be amazed how many moderns these days have slight proliferations, if its not to unslighty I would keep it. Sometimes warmer weather can change this situation as with the opening problems, if you know anyone south of you, give them a piece to grow in a warmer climate.
Thank you, Warren. I guess, I will give it another year.
And, it is mighty warm here, in South Virginia, too 
My hats off to you Adam, Lukasz, Paul,Joe, Marina and everyone else who grows indoors and seemingly on quite a large scale also. I know there are quite a few others who also grow successfully indoors, and to think what a job it is to do it outdoors, I cannot imagine what it takes in addition to do it indoors, in a non-greenhouse situation. My dream (probably not going to happen) would be to have a greenhouse to get them started in, or a hoophouse (might happen) and make it even easier than just starting them outdoors. Might have to get rid of a couple of trees to do that, but that doesn’t sound to bad.
Actually, I have a small heated greenhouses. But at minus 5 ° F (-15 C) at night, it’s hard to keep the regular temperature. Just now, when frosts are not so strong I can move the seedlings to the greenhouse. And for about two months, the first flowers
Pic: Open pollinated All the Rage. I’m getting antsy to pull my seed flats out of cold storage and into the greenhouse so I can start obsessing about more little seedlings…but I didn’t put them in until December and I’m sure they could use more time in the cold (running about 38 degrees now). I usually wait until they start popping up in greater numbers. I just potted up a tiny HWP (probably OP Winnipeg Parks, but does much better. I call it Hardy Winnipeg Parks) X Pink Double Knock Out. It’s not looking so hot, and I hope I didn’t kill it.
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Nice looking flower Joe.
I have about 10+ new blooms a day. Some people debud their first blooms. Maybe someday I will too, but for now I get to much of a kick out of seeing the new flowers-I have gotten to the point that I can remove them after 2-3 days (sometimes a little more), but I seldom let them get old on the seedlings anymore-I used to.
This is how the 2nd flower pictured above aged in three days-got huge, is on a vigorous plant, has two more buds, and looks to be a good seedling. The flower is marred from spraying for Downy Mildew.
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Many of the Carefree Copper seedlings have a lot of bristles, mostly on healthy vigorous plants. The bristly seedlings mostly look like they will not bloom this year, whereas the ones that are blooming the first year are much less bristly among the crosses I have made.
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Here is another Carefree Copper cross:
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Not all my blooming crosses are with Carefree Copper. Here are a couple others. (Kind a going crazy here.)
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Here is another Julia Child.
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And here is a last years seedling which still looks good.
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I am still looking for my first good looking peach/apricot color. I have given up on a really good looking white for now.
Great stuff Jackie. I really like the Julia Child single.
Hi Jackie,
JeffS has already replied about the ‘Julia Child’ single. May I order mine for delivery to OZ please,
They are beautiful. At least one one of each these please,
Mamart X
Gemini X
Gemish X
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