That would be great if Rugosa #3 does turn out to be a tetraploid and the cross with Sequoia Ruby takes. Finding or creating a tetraploid Rugosa would a great leap for creating hardy, healthy repeat blooming plants. My plants B0101 and B0104 are seedlings from a Rugosa that had its chromosomes doubled. Last year I thought B0104 was a tetraploid based on its pollen grain size but now I think it probably is a triploid. I raised a bunch of it OP seedlings this past year and the ones that bloomed were all diploid. Now I think B0101 is a tetraploid based on its pollen grain size and because itĆ¢ā¬ā¢s seeds are quite a bit larger than B0104.
Adam,
Thanks, I think you mean me (there are too many Pauls on the forum, though the others havenĆ¢ā¬ā¢t been on this thread). But itĆ¢ā¬ā¢s funny, I think IĆ¢ā¬ā¢m doing pretty humdrum stuff compared to what others are doing. And of course it never happens fast enough. But your (Rise & Shine x L83) looks like a great rose and I see you used it a lot. I havenĆ¢ā¬ā¢t used L83 yet but I may this year. I have a number of its offspring that I have used and will again this year. Is the Love & Peace you used the Ralph Moore rose or the Ping Lim Rose? IĆ¢ā¬ā¢ve thought about using the Ping Lim rose on something healthy because when it does bloom itĆ¢ā¬ā¢s great. I think itĆ¢ā¬ā¢ll good rose to pass on a deep yellow.
Andre,
I hope the Prairie Lass x Honeysweet seeds germinate for you. I love Honeysweet and have tried itĆ¢ā¬ā¢s pollen on a number of roses, but have gotten very few seeds or seedlings from the crosses. IĆ¢ā¬ā¢ll keep trying until something takes.
Paul I was talking about you. I can see lots of potential coming from your crosses. Nothing really marketable but stuff that in a few generations can really be the beginning of something special. I definitely know what you mean by it not going fast enough. This (Rise & Shine x L83) took three years to bloom. It surprised me how bright the flowers were coming from Rise N Shine. I kept three from this cross and this was one of the two top ones. The third one always has some leaf spots which I think are Cercospora leaf spot but I am not entirely sure. So I decided to take a leap of faith that this first seedling would produce good seedlings. So far many of these seedlings are showing they are vigorous. Almost all of them have a hint of pine scent to their foliage but I expect this will disappear as they get older. If I remember right (Rise & Shine x L83) also had this scent when it was young also. Hopefully I will get something that is healthy and repeats bloom.
This Love and Peace cross I did in remembrance of Mitchie Moe because I remember her saying in one of her articles that Love and Peace produced healthy miniatures and I always wanted to try it after I read that. So after she died I decided to go ahead and do this cross. But I think I got the wrong Love and Peace. I only realized this in the fall after I did my cross. I used the one created by Lim. But looking at it Limās Love and Peace probably the better route to go anyways. By the way two of these seedlings have buds already. By the look of the plants I wished I had done more of this cross.
The first of the Cal Poly x Rayon ButterFED is blooming. It starts off as a rich orange color and ages to a peach/apricot/tan kind of mixture. Itās semi-double to double and has no scent. So far it appears that it might be a mini. Very pleasing looking over all. Iāll try to get a picture to post here.
How neat Rob! Mine are no where near flowering, but itās been in the high thirties at night and fifties during the day. Congratulations! Iād love to see pictures!
A couple more sprouts were potted up over the weekend. It appears the The 777 Rose has good seed fertility. My plant was still small this year but I decided to use it in a few crosses as a seed parent to test it. Of the 6 bags of crosses I got (1 hip each with up to 10 seeds) I have gotten several sprouts in 4 of them. I donāt know what it will produce but I am hoping for some good colors with little to no thorns. All the pollen parents are unidentified as the tags were unreadable (at least I have the listing of the crosses so I might be able to guess).
Youāre welcome! Thanks for giving them a good home! Those three are the fastest germinators here in my seed boxes. Theyāre also the most prolific. I think combining the three into one should create a super breeder.
I am using āCoral Driftā, because David determined it to be diploid. It gets a bit of mildew on the buds here but otherwise it is quite healthy and its pollen seems to work well and is a real bloom machine. I havenāt tried it as a seed parent and donāt recall seeing hips on it. Thereās a good chance āPeach Driftā is a triploid but it looks nice. We can get ours here: http://svc129.wic021v.server-web.com/plant-nursery/drift-roses/
I crossed Peach Drift with a number of things, and the only hip that survived (low to the ground in a famous vole area) is an early cross with Cinco de Mayo. I have two seedlings planted up from that cross. I did try it a few years ago and got a couple of really petite (but nicely formed) shrubby seedlings, but the flower looked very similar to P.D.and I probably did not hang on to them long enough to really give them a chance.Hopefully this cross with CdM will be more floriferous.
Rob, The PD X CdM seedlings are only 2-3 weeks old. I grow all my seedlings outdoors, no cover, and we have been having nights in the mid 30āsF down to 28F. The banana that shares the area with the seedlings froze back two nights ago. So all my seedlings take about 7-8 weeks to get to first bloom stage or sometimes more. They just kind of grow really slowly, and I can not fault them on that. I move a bit slow in this weather too. I should get a few more germinations (hopefully) and I will post photos when blooms happen.
Jackie I do the same, every thing grown outdoors from the germination trays to seedlings. We average around 28F here and I only bring them in when there is a severe frost.
Hi Kim. I donāt remember you sending me seeds from this one but the memory is not what it used to be. You sent me cuttings and I was successful rooting one. I only had one hip on the plant at the end of the season that barely had any color to it but thought what the heck. There was only one seed and I didnāt expect it to germinate but am pleasantly surprised. There is some great genes here and hope it will bloom while under lights for me. Iāll keep you posted.
Sorry Rob! Weāre related regarding memory! I know I found one (or two) hips on the original seedling and the resulting seed was sent somewhere. Oh, well, doesnāt matter. Iām excited to see what, if anything, results from it! Good luck!
