Robert, I plan on using it with cimbers and floribundas. So far, I want to try it with Shockwave. I would like to combine it with something to create a nice white, fragrant climber. A mauve or pink climber, floribunda or shrub could be possible, too.
So far, Robert’s #4 x {Scentimental and Rose Gilardi} seedlings are growing out. We’ll see how that works out next year.
Is Miracle on Hudson thornless, Robert? Very interesting rose, although red singles aren’t exactly my favorite. But I would buy it as a companion for my Lynnie, which is also very disease resistant but the mauvey undertones of the red doesn’t mix well.
Jadae, I’ve gotten first generation yellows out of the Sister ARMXLB seedlings.
You might very well get yellow using #4 with Shockwave. One advantage of Mauve genes in the lineage is that they carry yellow.
I’m anxious to see your #4 x {Scentimental and Rose Gilardi} seedlings. Those sound really intriguing.
Enrique, ‘Miracle on the Hudson’ is not smooth. However, I have little doubt that it carries smoothness.
There is a Sister seedling (LGHR4) that is smooth and it has produced smooth seedlings.
I basically chose Shockwave for it’s habit, color-fastness, fertility, hardiness for a floribunda and disease resistance. Color was 2nd hand – for once lol.
M119-1 X M39-1, is perhaps one of my most hopeful crosses made this year. It is a cross between two brand new Hulthemia seedlings (wouldn’t you know it!)
Anyway, M119-1 is a classic floriferous single pink mini that is nearly always in bloom and that has a great compact shrub architecture, but the blotch is not that distinct, however, since I noted early on this Spring that it sets hips, I decided to cross another seedling onto it. The hips are nearly mature.
The pollen parent is a yellow Hulthemia with a better blotch.
As was already mentioned, just because there are hips, it doesn’t mean that there will be seedlings to follow, but I am hoping!
Jim Sproul
This is really exciting Jim. Can’t wait to see the results of your cross. Good luck.
I am fascinated with the improved Rosa rugosa that I acquired recently. It is a single, flowers last but a single day each in our heat, but the color (a real concolor lavender purple) and fragrance are unbelieveable!
So far I’ve used its pollen for the following crosses:
R. xMiracle on the Hudson x R. rugosa ‘Improved’
R. xHome Run x R. rugosa ‘Improved’
R. xCoral Drift sport (no orangy color) x R. rugosa ‘Improved’
R. xThe Fairy x R. rugosa ‘Improved’ (I understand Fairy might be sterile, but the hip is still holding)
Any comments?
These are my first crosses and I will be doing a few more.
When is the last time (in zone 8) that I can expect to make crosses with enough time for the seeds to mature this fall?
Count backward between 110 and 120 days from when you must harvest the seeds and stop your pollinations by then. If you have a premium membership to Help Me Find-Roses, you can look at all the seedlings The Fairy has produced under the Lineage tab.
Zone 8 is spread out to a pretty wide area, but if you figure that your first ‘heavy frost’ might be around October 15 (it varies) that would give you up to around July 1-15 for pollinations that should produce viable seed. Some seed takes around 90-100 days, many of the moderns take a little over 100 days, up to 110. Seed seems to ripen a little earlier during high heat with shorter days, so that should give you 2-3 weeks more. If you get great weather up to early November, add another month to that. Many roses do not have a problem with ripening on the bush in very cold weather-even snow. I do not think I would count on less than 80 days of good weather for any but some species. I have quite a few differing hips that are now quite ripe at about 85 days, but these are still fairly close to the species.