Hi Kim,
Thanks that is tempting!
Anyways, since I now got this EFY XOP seedling to fiddle with, the persica craving has been satisfied.
All eyes are on it atm…
LOL
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(I mean all eyes in my household)
LOL George, literally.
Jim
Hi Jim,
I’m glad you took it the right way, not too seriously!
Am I dumb in continuing the night time supplemental lights, now that it is taking daylight?
OK… So not really knowing what I am doing here in regards to fluro lights indoors, I have continued exposing this seedling to fluro lights all night indoors, then taking it out to get direct morning and midday sunlight.
Result so far: I honestly have never seen a seedling grow so fast!!! (Note: I have never really dabbled in fluro lights either to compare this one’s growth to other fluro-exposed seedlings…maybe this rate of growth is what is to be expected under those conditions of extra lighting…DUNNO).
It now has three true leaves and leaf number four is on its way up today. Currently it seems to be growing one new leaf every second or third day, I think.
Apart from the green cotyledon, all the newer leaves continue to be pigmented a deep purple, which I have never seen before either.
I am not sure when fluro lights might become too much of a good thing when outdoor lighting is added as well.
“Audrey II”. “I’m a mean, green motha from outer space!” LOL! Kim
ROFLOL @ Kim!
George, count your blessings! LOL
True enough!!
Here is Eyes For You X OP today, it is several weeks old now. It looks to have a rambling sort of architecture, it is throwing multiple laterals from very low down. Very few prickles on it so far:
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Even though it germinated in 100F type heat near the end of spring, it is not phased. This suggests to me this one is summer tolerant. It is actually thriving in the heat and humidity :O)
George,
Very nice looking growth going there-makes it worth some of the saga.
Yup in this case looking back now, it was sheer luck and a fluke that the EC worked. Since doing these EC I have learned a whole lot more about what embryos really like to succeed in more recent EC trials I have done. Looking back on this run, I wonder I might have lost the 3 embryo/sibs from this EFY seed for lack of knowledge. Live and learn, I am still satisfied with one!
I have also used Eyes For You pollen on some cultivars as well now, and I have two hips that have taken. Most of the pollen was wasted on one rose which got some sort of mildew and dumped about 20 hips…LOL!! It will be interesting to see what comes out the other end in those 2 hips that are cooking nicely now.
I think I would have to agree with Paul on that one. It just seems like the ones that fairly jump out of their seed coats for me are the ones that are the most vigorous and healthy all the way around. The ones that sort of struggle out never do very well and usually die the first year on their own. If I were doing scientific research that would be one thing but for just breeding purposes I don’t think I would go to the trouble.
Yes it struggled as an embryo, only because what I did to it to force it to germinate against its will in 95-100F was pretty dumb, in hindsight. Hindsight is a wonderful thing LOL. There is no way we can know if this embryo would or would not have struggled to germinate if it were allowed to do so when its time was right and it was ready to do so naturally. As a seedling it certainly does not appear to be struggling.
Judging by its current form, my prediction would be that this one would have been a vigorous germinator if it were allowed to germinate when it had broken its dormancy and conditions were optimal for its germiation to have taken place naturally as a seed.
O:)
Three weeks later it looks like this today:
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Here is a bird’s eye view, showing its rather pronounced spreading habit:
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No flower yet…might prove non-remontant, who knows! :O)
Pretty foliage, George, congratulations!
Hi Kim,
thx for the kind words :O)
I wonder if this spreading growth has something to do with the hulthemia species coming through it (I say this as I vaguely recall Jim S mentioning something about this on other hulthemia threads, no?).
I believe it is, George. Hulthemia is a “bramble”, seeming to spread by underground suckers. I remember reading it’s gathered for use as kindling to start fires. The one plant of it I had many years ago was a very small thing, grafted to Silver Moon by a gentleman up in the mountains above Santa Rosa. It was even “wilder” and more weedy looking than Tigris or Euphrates. I hope plants are sent out from Vintage of all three Harkness hybrids before anything happens to their collection. Nigel Hawthorne is the one which seemed to have the best plant traits and largest flower. Can you imagine all the weird (and potentially awful) things that could eventually be coaxed from that thing?
Hi Kim,
The only persica hybrid I have owned of those three is Euphrates, a horrible little plant in my climate. I would never even dream of using it in a breeding cycle here in Sydney (prolly impossible anyways as it is not real fertile round here, thank goodness). Euphrates is my first rose plant I can acually say did die from total powdery mildew attack.
I am so glad this thing pictured above does not have PM so far, however I am really begining to hate its rambling propensity. It better bloom in the next few months…or else!!!