Hello all.
I was recently gifted with a miniature rose plant from my
husband. He picked the plant up at our local Lowe’s Hardware Store. I need some help to find out the actual
genus/species name so that I may identify it and care for it properly. The planeter already has 5 orange buds tightly
sealed but looks like they could open and bloom in a week
or so. I want to transplant the mini into a pot from it’s Planter but I don’t want to kill them.
I’m new to this.
So far I have only found the link below and it’s not helpful. http://www.pineae.com/himalayan_detail.php?autonumber=10
The tag info is below:
Rose Orange Kordana (KORoragu PPAF)
Fashionable miniature roses which produce large,
double, vibrant orange blooms from late spring to
early summer. Suitable in pots for terrace, balcony
and verandah planting.
Needs Full Sun
Grows from 6 to 12 inches tall, 12 to 15 inches wide.
Produced by Colorama Nsy. Azusa CA 91702 Created by Kordes
Link: www.pineae.com/himalayan_detail.php?autonumber=10
Hi Mayren,
Your miniature rose is not a species rose but a hybrid miniature. Some years ago Kordes bred a series of miniature roses known as the ‘Kordana’ series roses. Many of them are sold in stores like Walmart, Home Depot, Lowe’s etc, this time of year. Your mini orange must be new on the market as I don’t see it listed on Help-Me-Find, however; it should be grown and treated like any other miniature rose. If you look closely, there usually are three to four individual stems that come in one pot, each being a separate little orange rose. If I were you, I’d place the pot near a sunny window, allowing the buds to flower first, keeping the soil moist. Once the flowers have blown, dead head or clip them off to the second or third leaflet from the top. Once you’ve done that, remove them from their pot and gently pull or separate the individual minis to plant in their own individual pots within a quality potting mix. Keep these pots well watered at a sunny location, taking care they don’t get spider mites; a weekly or bi-weekly spray of 1-2 drops of dish detergent to 500 ml of water on stems and underneath foilage usually does the trick. I don’t know your zone, but you want to make sure they remain alive in these pots untill it’s time to transplant them outdoors as soon as the weather warms - roses don’t do well indoors for very long. They may certainly be planted in planters or in the ground once the weather permits. Once transplanted to their permanent locations, best to keep them watered well untill their roots are established.
I grow a few in this series: Pink Marina Kordana, Cinderella Kordana, Amore Kordana, and Sunny Kordana. Check it out, and best of luck!
Link: www.helpmefind.com/rose/roses.php?sbSearch=SEARCH&tab=5
Oh yes, I forgot…
Roses are also prone to getting powdery mildew indoors - so make sure to add 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda to your dish soap-water mix, and thoroughly spray the foilage inside & out.
Hope this helps.
Dee your a live saver!
I live in Southern California around L.A.
I too could not find anything on the HelpmeFind
for this Orange Kordana. Several people online
have been handling them since mid 2005 or so.
After posting I have found a few more items on the
Orange Kordana here:
Some general mini advice I found was here:
http://www.johnsminiatureroses.com/info.html
Do you find that the FAQ is sound?
So far you and Janet from above seem to have the best
staight forward tips on how to deal with the minis.
I am happy i asked before just repotting the whole
planter. I will have to check them out very closely before
reporting more. I live in an apartment so some of these little Kordanas will not be directly going into a garden.
Hopefully after their bloom I can gift a few to responsible rose gardening friends who will plant a couple.
My plan is to keep one or two for myself in a soon to be
built Verandah Box where they can get the most sun.
I found this info on the Kordana website, but it seems
a little too flippant for the work some roses actually need:
How to care for your Kordana
Hi Mayren,
I live in Southern CA also and bought the same rose from a local Home Depot about 1 week ago. It has great color. My plant came in a “quart” size square container and had only one plant in it. I transplanted it into a 3 gallon pot to give it a boost. In California, now is a fine time to tranplant to a larger pot and put it on an outdoor deck, preferably in a shaded area for about 1 week and then in full sun. You just have to make sure the pot doesn’t dry out. Roses do much better outside.
I’m looking forward to seeing how this rose does. Good luck with yours!
Jim Sproul
Mayren - I was hoping the HMF link I posted above would display the list of Kordana roses in the series I was meaning to convey, but if for some reason it doesn’t…
Go back to the link I posted. If instead, it brings you to a page titled “Advanced Search”, then select the word “Name” as this will open up a window titled “Rose Name Search”. Select the word ‘contains’ and type in the name ‘Kordana’ in the field provided. Hit ‘continue’ at the bottom, and this should bring up an alphabetical list of Kordana roses in the series. Let me know if it doesn’t.
I found out my Orange Kordana is only one plant as well.
Here’s a few questions about when I repot:
I will dead head or clip it once it is done fully flowering, but The little Kordana has
a huge amount of leaves (and thorns hehee).
- How far down should I clip?
It seems going down even 3 leaflets is so short.
To Dee and Jim - are your Kordanas seemingly over
abundant in leaves and foliage?
- When prep’ing the new pot should I use the trick of
putting about 1/2 inch of broken crocks down at
the bottom first before the potting soil for better
drainage?
The tip i see most places is that roses love water but
they hate being soggy.
I checked out many other Kordana variety help pages but
I keep getting different tips. Mini Rose care seems to be
alot about preference on the surface, but really it’s
all about different care tweaks for each different rose.
Jim: Thanks for the tip on pot size for my new Kordana.
I’m going out this weekend to get my soil and pot.
Also:
How often do I need to fertilize my roses? I will most likely using a liquid rose feed at 1/2 strength so I do not burn the roots. I think I understand that the feed is to be used at the same time as watering but I don’t understand how often to fertilize
Anyone have any information on “Tiffany” Rose? It’s one of those forced pot roses (pink) but the blossoms are huge for a mini?
It says it’s fragrant but I can’t smell a thing. It was distributed by “Bloom Rite” which is a trademark of Nurserymen’s Exchange.
Mayren, I’ll leave it to those in your location to best answer your questions.
Now having said that, there are forums more suited to providing anwsers to the questions you are looking for specifically. Garden Web’s Miniature Roses Forum is one for starters, addressing all aspects of mini rose culture, pruning and care. All you need to do is register. There you’ll find folks in your area that would be pleased to lend constructive advice with your querry.
GW’s Roses Forums: http: //forums.gardenweb.com/forums/rosesind/
Rosarian’s Corner: http://www.rosarianscorner.net/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=Portal
Link: forums.gardenweb.com/forums/rosesmin/
Dee: Thanks again for the great advice.
Robert: I found a link to someone who grows the Mini
Tiffany Rose. The link is below just scroll down to the Tiffany. She has gorgeous and distinct pictures as well.
This is the info I found:
Tiffany
hybrid tea
Pink with some yellow on the bottom of the petals
Medium scent
Tiffany is a lovely rose. The bush has produced a nice amount of roses which are great for cuttings. I would say this is one of my best roses. The bush blooms in bunches and blooms all summer. The roses themselves are long-lasting and eye-catching. The scent is also lovely but not overpowering. The bush does fall prey to blackspot as do many of my roses. Again, this is one of my best roses.
Link: www.duke.edu/~dds/roses/details.html
Hi Mayren, I should have explained that this appears to be the re-use of an old name.
‘Tiffany’ is a classic (and very fragrant)Hybrid Tea, one of my favorites!
This is one of those chain store things in a tiny 4" pot forced in a greenhouse. This one was distributed for Valentine’s Day.
Thanks, Robert
Thanks Robert, I was wondering about that. I got one of those too, and since I have one of the ‘classic’ Tiffanies I knew it wasn’t that Tiffany, so I got confused reading the tag over trying to figure it out. I thought maybe Tiffany was being used as a brand name or something, so I was looking for the ‘real’ name of the rose! I actually like it quite a bit, it has excellent foliage.
Yes, I don’t know how they get the foliage so perfect! I’m sure it has something to do with the water quality, or perhaps they get none on the foliage?
I’ve been very disappointed with some florist roses I managed to root in the past. I don’t know if this will fare any better.
I would plant your rose outside. There will be more than one plant in your pot (they do this to make the pot more full in such a short while. You may want to seperate them.)
I planted one of the roses from the Parade series. It has no name, and I spent almost 4 years looking for it. I’m thinking this is most likely Claire Parade.
It’s a WONDERFUL rose for the garden. It’s big as Queen Elizabeth. I’ve kept it because I’ve always wanted to incoporate it in my hybridizing program with other miniature roses.
It keeps very well, and it’s disease resistant. The only fault is that the petals don’t drop. This may have been a good thing for marketing this rose as a dispensible pot plant, but not so great when a gardener decides to preserve it.
It sets many open pollinated hips easily and I’m thinking of using this with Basye’s Legacy (whose flowers shatters quite easily.) To see if I could get something between in the middle.
Mayren, as for deadheading, with smaller plants like this, I just deadhead at the peduncle (where the stem below the bloom joins the plant). It preserves more green material to produce a bigger plant faster and to produce more blooms.
These sort of plants have all of the extra dense growth partly because of a plant hormone that is applied to keep the plants shorter and tiddier for better display at the garden centers. The hormone effects will wear off and the plant will start growing taller in a few weeks.
Jim Sproul
Yes, I don’t know how they get the foliage so perfect! I’m sure it has something to do with the water quality, or perhaps they get none on the foliage?
I’ve been very disappointed with some florist roses I managed to root in the past. I don’t know if this will fare any better.
I showed it to someone and she actually thought it was a plastic rose because the leaves were so shiny! That’s how I knew I wasn’t just being overly impressed. She had to touch it to be convinced it was real. I am hoping it holds up outdoors.
I live in upstate NY and I just recently bought pink marina mini roses a week or so ago. I put the roses in the window of my dorm room and the temperature is about 75F in the day, 55F at night, if I don’t open the window. Anyways, just over the past few days it started to die. The leaves started to turn yellow and wilt. I also noticed a white powdery substance on some of the top leaves… It came off like sticky lint when I tried to rub it. I wonder if it is some kind of mildew… Anyone have any ideas what I can do to revive my plant?
did you take the plant out of it’s wrapper? How wet is the soil?
Hello,
I received a Kordana rose for my Mother’s wake and was wondering if I would be able to transplant it outside this late in the season. Would the plant have enough time to establish roots to survive the harsh Chicago winter? Or should I keep it indoor until after the frost?
Thank you in advance,
Alice
I am gonna be a lotta cold hearted here! Caution before you read further, it might be upsetting. To the consumer if you buy cheap you get quality of cheap! Box stores DO NOT give a crap about anything gardening, much less roses. It is strictly an impulse buying ploy that obviously works wery well. Those box stores selling a plant is equivalent to their return policies. Do what it takes to get you the consumer back in the door to spend more. Ultimate goal is every day if possible. The word “impulse” appears in the first paragraph of just about all the training manuals involving plants. I know this for I am employed by a box store. I try to the best of my ability to educate what quality means in a hybrid. Usually with retail capitalist it falls on deaf ears! Kordana roses living to me are about as equivalent to the 13 week miniature sold in florist industry that dies. Yes they have bred these roses to simply die after a time period. One should seek out those companies advertised with the American Rose Society.
My whole point is I would buy a diamond ring from a jeweler, not the guy set up at the county fair!