Paul said, “I have gotten some remarkable hybrids from ‘Midnight Blue’ and found it to be highly malleable yet capable of passing on its rich coloring.”
That is so true. You don’t have to start with a purple/mauve mini, to get a purple/mauve mini of your liking. ‘Midnight Blue’ makes a great seed parent to put mini pollen on.
Here is a photo of my ‘Midnight Blue’ loaded with hips. There is only one hip in the photo that has failed. It is an extremely reliable seed parent. Note, the yellow bloom to the right is an adjacent other seed parent.
I have a purple mini from ‘Midnight Blue’ x ‘Baby Love’ that would have been released through Nor’East, but didn’t make it before the close!
Jim Sproul
Wow! That is pretty impressive, Jim!
That IS impressive! I have a thornless climber from 1-72-1 X Midnight Blue which has beautiful foliage, in its second year and has yet to flower! It’s a pretty plant, though.
Jim, that is a great illistration. I count over 100 hips and some people may think that is waaay too many to deal with but for me plant no.29 would have 100 seedlings from that and plants 31 and 37 would germinate zip. Luckly plant 23 had 1000 seedlings of every color and type of flower but white and yes 100 seedlings of that would pretty much result in the full spectrum of types but it is so great to have more than just one of a type and it makes me feel like I will have a base to get somewhere. Thanks, Neil Going to take a Spanish pause now.
‘Midnight Blue’ produces nice large sprays, so it is great for seed production. My stats show about 11-12 seeds per hip and 30%-40% germination for ‘Midnight Blue’. One plant can easily produce 1,000 seeds.
Kim, sounds like a beautiful plant! ‘Midnight Blue’ as you noted in your seedling, tends to produce seedlings with fewer thorns - another nice quality.
Neil, where are you from? Your English is good. Do you speak Spanish then?
Jim Spoul
“‘Midnight Blue’ as you noted in your seedling, tends to produce seedlings with fewer thorns”
True also; I am seeing a large number of seedlings that are surprisingly un-thorny. A few are thornless, but most have only a few here and there. It might be a good plant to mate with other truly thornless varieties if you wanted to pursue this trait.
Hi Peter,
Sorry for the delay. I have been moving. It loks like you fixed the issue perfectly. I’m happy cause its been bugging me forever, lol. I am unsure as to why my email isnt working on this. I always add my email. Maybe Comcast thinks its spam.
Mike
Jim spoul, I live near Jadae, but am still a bit of a traveler, ugh, the last village was infested with fleas and the shamin was packing a case of beer. Neil
Made a connection with a master rosarian and ended up with looks like Baron de Gossard, Braithwaite, Signature, Octoberfest, Blue Nile, Solar Flare, Libez----tall red and a lot of hips and more info than I could digest, wooee what a day.
Liebezauber (Love’s Magic). With roses such as those, he may have exhibited at one point in his time. Are they from Edmunds roses? The majority of those scream it as a source. If so, some of them may be budded on multiflora. Solar Flare is pretty rare. There is a line bred rose related to it called Chowan that is kind of like Fragrant Cloud 2.0. But it gets nasty mildew 
btw, there is a new 49er class/color type out this year called Eddy Mitchell. Like many of those I described before, it is closely related. The color is very saturated with this one so I assume it is likely to pass on the color pattern relatively well.
Oh yeah, Lasting Love, if paired just right, will also produce this color pattern. I guess thats one of the highlights of being bred from Colour Wonder. I mention this because Lasting Love is highly saturated and easy to purchase. However, it can be blackspot prone just like the majority of these types are.
I didn’t ask too many questions but have a tag here that says Edmunds and he did talk about a lot of them grafted. The first one is printed as Baron Girod de y Ain and another as Helen o’ Day. These where full size so had to cut, break to get into the SUV, 20 gal pots some. Going back for a real nice red climber to replace the junk one I now have. Didn’t know what mildew was till a neighbor gave me a pink, and most of the others outgrow BS if pruned.
Made my own notes today. No Helen O’ day, Solar Flare was a cutting, Vavoom is the Orange I have. Went back for Altissimo which is growing out of a log cut apart with a chain saw 4"x31/2" dia. oval, got roped into Let Freedom Ring, Elizabeth Taylor and Playboy. Tried a search for Eddy Mitchell and couldn’t find who had one for sale. For 20 gal. pots had to use an auger and tomorrow will get after it with a pick. This ground is tough.
That is certainly a lot of hips Jim. I can honestly say I have never seen a rose covered so well with the promises of tomorrow.
So with all those price tags it must be worth…Say thousands of dollars or some thing. You might want to look out for shop lifters:)
The ground is always tough in July/Aug/Sept in Western WA/OR cause clay + rocks are awesome when moderately wet but can easily turn into a massive mess or a harden clay pot with ease.
Clay pot is right. A hole full of water is still there in the morning and even after sticking a metal rod 3 foot deep some still do not drain. And what an education I had about showing roses and what is involved. That’s a whole different world. Intense hardly describes it.