After an inch and a half of rain, things are beginning to pop. Eyeconic Lemonade is pushing growth and has several “munched” buds which would have been beautiful had they not been someone’s breakfast. Out front, where I can protect them from becoming a smorgasbord, flowers fare better, but disease pressure is significantly greater.
This is M37-1, a seedling Jim Sproul shared with the attendees of last year’s Friends of Sequoia event.
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M210-1 is one of his seedlings he shared with me at a Ventura County Rose Society meeting where he presented his Hulthemia breeding program. It’s quite an interesting look into his marvelous work and successes in that fascinating niche.
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The star of the morning is Eyes for You. This is the first basal of the young, own root plant, with the first flower opening here.
A wonderful trait of all of them is the intensely sweet fragrance which is maintained even in the spent petals. The Moore “Persian” series out back are growing and setting new foliage, but with no sight of any flower buds yet.
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Your EFY sure is showing itself off beautifully there in your “Encino California climate”, Kim.
Thanks, George. It got even better as the day progressed. I can’t wait to have a BED of this rose. I think it would be rather spectacular.
Are the eyes following you? X_X or rather… 0_0 ( I see youuuuuuu).
I thought so, Michael, but the Rice Krispies told me not to worry about it!
LOVE the humor guys! … it is good night from me (1.30am here) and have a good day to you!
Ya know, I just realized that i have at times confused EFY with “Blue for You”. (Duh.) No wonder I thought photos I recently saw of BFY were lacking a certain… something…
I’m guessing BFY figures into EFY’s pedigree?
Your photo is showing more warm cream tones than others of the same rose. It’s a real beauty regardless, (he said covetously…)
How healthy is it thus far, Kim?
How is EFY related to Bull’s Eye? Same breeder. EFY released 2009, BE released 2011. Bull’s Eye has parentage listed on HMF, but no pics. EFY has pics, but no listed parentage. Bull’s Eye’s female parent is also Blue For You, so maybe it is a sister seedling of EFY?
Curious because your EFY is gorgeous (and Blue For You) but I have a Bull’s Eye on order.
EfY fades into blue. From The Rose (in the references section on HMF) this is the parentage of Eyes for You.
"Bred by Peter James and introduced by Chris Warner. Chris rates this as
an outstanding novelty. He says, ‘I started work with the Persica hybrids in the early eighties when I purchased ‘Tigris’. My hybrids, crossed with ‘Baby Love’, were a step forward in disease resistance on the earlier Harkness hybrids and one, ‘Chewtiggle’, won an award at St Albans. But they needed old wood to repeat and though ‘Tiggle’ did repeat it stopped flowering in September. ‘Tiggle’ proved a dead end. I fortunately had a small group to help me with my project on the understanding that anything of worth came to me first. Ronnie Rawlins from Fixby, Huddersfield joined later and received ‘Tingle’ rather than ‘Tiggle’. Fate decreed that ‘Tingle’ produced two usable hybrids and from these real progress is now being made’.
‘Eyes for You’ has 4" flowers in trusses in a mauvy-lilac shade with a very large purple blotch at the centre of the flower. The impact of the flower colouring is very dramatic. The plant is short, bushy and free flowering. There is also an outstanding fragrance inherited from ‘Blue for You’. Disease resistance is very good."
It is from CHEWtingle with Blue for You.
Bull’s Eye is Seed: Blue For You (Floribunda, James, 2006)
Pollen: SCRIVbell × [Tigris × Baby Love (miniature, Scrivens 1992)]
I would suggest that CHEWtingle is also the Tigris X Baby Love offspring from what is stated and how it is stated, but I could be wrong. It is entirely possible that Bull’s Eye is a sibling of Eyes for You simply released later. There is no way currently to determine in what order they germinated nor precisely what parentage they are other than what is stated in print, but if CHEWtiggle was a dead end and Tingle provided further progress, then the Tigris cross behind Bull’s Eye should be Tingle, which it shares with Eyes for You. Both contain Blue for You which is where the disease resistance and fragrance appear to have come from. It appears to me they are very possibly sister seedlings, perhaps even from the same year’s breeding.
It’s much hotter today than yesterday and the heat effects are definite on Eyes. Much more ‘blue’ and the sweet, fruity scent is evolving rather interestingly. When in direct, hot sun, the fruity tones sharpen to an almost nitrogen edge (think the high olfactory response to ammonia, but not as over powering) combined with the intensity of over ripening fruit. The sweetness is still there but with that ‘edge’. Once the flower cooled after the direct sun had moved from it, the sharp tones mellowed and instead of the Double Delight, sticky sweetness, what is left is sweet and quite “fruity”.
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It reminds me quite a bit of a lisianthus, much as Blue for You does.
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M-37-1 develops a much darker blotch in the heat and with age. Here they are in full sun.
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Shaded so more ultraviolet is expressed, showing more “blue”.
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M-210-1 bleaches out as to be expected.
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Eyes has a wonderful water color effect to its blotch, “bleeding” into the surrounding colors.
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YES!!
One of the take home messages about EFY, is that the blotch is definitely heat stable, and thumbs its nose at intense-level exposure to solar radiation. Another plus (in my location) is that the fully opened flowers did not wilt in the mid-summer heat (note: we did not have furnace heat conditions this summer just past).
In my location / conditions, the unopened bud petals of EFY are a yellow predominantly, then the yellow tones completely fade out as the flower finally opens and becomes fully exposed to solar radiation, to then finally become predominantly white with varying levels / hints of pink, and of course the intense central purple/violet blotch sits there proudly.
The anthers when fully dried then placed into e.g. a baby food jar, exude an exquisite fruity scent. The petals are also scented.
IMHO, EFY is a MUST rose to have, if ya like this style of rose.
KUDOS to Peter James, Chris Warner, and co!!!
Eyes for You is beautifully phototropic. The hotter it gets, the more “tie dyed” it appears and the deeper the saturation of pigments. I love the “bleed” on the blotch!
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M-37 isn’t as happy in the high disease pressure spot it occupies, but if it will ever increase in size, I can try it out back in the rodent ‘smorgasbord’. I love the density, saturation and size of the blotch. This one doesn’t fade out.
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Persian Flame has opened its first bloom of the season, of course, way down inside the prickley crown of the plant. Amazing how far Jim and Peter James have brought Hulthemia in such a short time (comparitively) from Ralph’s Persians.
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Kim, the intense orange/vermilion color is great. As a plant, would it be used for landscape or could it be used as a specimen in conjuction with other roses to make it stand out.
It would be nice for that, IF it had a decent plant habit and flowered heavily, continuously enough. But, I agree, the color is beautiful, what there is of it.
Hi Kim,
Thank you for highlighting some of my Hulthemias! I should mention though that I have discarded M37-1 due to its dieback problems (a problem that comes out of ‘TIgris’) and I am not using M210-1 in further breeding due to its smaller blotch. Have you seen O241 (it is one of last years seedlings)? I posted a couple photos of it on my blog.
It is amazing how it is that many of the Hulthemia seedlings have blotches that “bleed” into the rest of the petal. There are even some where the effect is so pronounced that it is more of a streaking into the rest of the petal. I haven’t used EFY yet, but my plant that I received at the Friends of Sequoia gathering will be blooming in the next couple of days. Seeing your photos, it is interesting to note that many of the characteristics of EFY are seen in some of my seedlings, suggesting a class effect. I’ll be posting more photos in my blog over the next couple of weeks as I am seeing last years selections growing and blooming outside for the first time.
You’re welcome Jim. I’ll have to look for the seedling you mentioned. I haven’t encountered the dieback in M37, but it does appear susceptible to crown gall. It’s only been potted in Miracle Grow Moisture Control Soil and it’s the only rose I have with gall.
Sidetrack time again, any unwanted seed from your roses Jim S, send them down to OZ, we will look after them. A Hulthemia with fragrance here we come.
David, have you got Eyes For You yet?
