A friend brought me a plant from Tuscan for Christmas from Home Depot of a rose labeled as a red Lady Banks rose. I cannot fine it on Helpmefind. It has prickles and double red blooms about an inch or so across with narrow petals. The leaves look relatively Rosa wichurana-like. It supposed to climb to 20’ from the tag and it seems to repeat some as it is blooming now.
It would be fun to learn more about this rose and if it has R. banksiana in it.
Thank you!
David
I’ve never seen the roses in question, but as far as I can ascertain it has no connection to banksia whatsoever.
The name is apparently a marketing ploy.
I used prior connections and found out the supplier is Nakase Bros. Nsy. in Orange Cty, CA. They are former customers of mine.
I made some some phone calls but couldn’t get a straight answer from anyone there the few times I tried.
I gave up trying to learn anything else about it.
How about some photos? No doubt, it will turn out to be something we know about in disguise.
Ironically it’s listed in Nakase’s inventory as,
“Rosa banksaie ‘Red’ Bush”
Unfortunately the public believes anything they read. In my experience they will argue vehemently with you if you suggest otherwise.
This kind of stuff makes me nuts. Be prepared to see a lot more of it because it sells units.
Hines Nurseries are notorious for this kind of stuff.
Like the “Pink Lady Banks” a friend has raved about for years. Yup, “Cecil Brunner”!
I’m waiting for someone to ID it as ‘Excelsa’ or something similar. laughs
Or, ‘Super Excelsa’?
Pics please! 
Maybe its Chevy Chase.
I’ve tried emailing them but the emails come back saying I have to belong to the “Google Group” to “post to the group”. Weird. So, have at it, there is a toll free number you can swamp until you get the information you want! Kim
NAKASE BROTHERS IS A WHOLESALE-ONLY NURSERY
Sales Office Hours are from 8:00am to 4:30pm Monday thru Friday.
Phone Number: (949) 855-4388 or (800) 747-4388.
Fax Number: (949) 855-0948.
Mailing Address: 9441 Krepp Drive, Huntington Beach CA 92646
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there is a blush red spinossima hybrid listed at HMF ?
If someone has subscribed to Dave’s Garden forums, there is a discussion here.
Link: davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/1129423/?hl=red+lady+banks+rose
Thank you!! THe flower has unfortunately fallen off of it. I’ll try to take some pictures when it recovers a bit and next time it blooms. From your help and a friend that emailed personally, it seems like it is probably ‘Chevy Chase’ from looking at the photos on Help me find.
Marketing that doesn’t acknowledge the registered cultivar name, even in fine print, sure adds confusion!! That’s too bad it really doesn’t have Rosa banksiana in it.
Thanks again everyone!
David
Chevy Chase isnt too much of a stretch though 
I still want to use it some day, like Happy x Chevy Chase or some such random idea. Its a nice rose. Its just too big of a plant.
I saw it today in person at Lowe’s!!! This reincarnation is Red Ribbons, lol. More and more wholesalers are taking naming liberties to an entirely possible illegal level. Ive already filed with the US DOA for one wholesaler re: labeling laws. I should have wrote down the distributor code.
Yup. Bought one last week from the “death rack” at Lowes for $1. I also grow Red Ribbons. The foliage sure looks the same. Will keep them together for awhile and confirm that when they both bloom.
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Wow I hope they have an arrangement with Kordes as it is ‘Red Ribbons’ since it is still under patent.
Yeah, that was my prior implication.
We used to be able to find 6" azalea pots of Red Ribbons sent out for Mother’s Day, Valentine’s Day, etc. around here. When chopped back and pushed, it can be quite pretty, but when planted out in the garden, it’s like a smaller, repeat flowering, less diseased Dr. Huey in these parts.
Forgetting the possible re-namming issue, there is a rose in the HMF database introduced by Thomas Rivers before 1846 that is red and classified as a hybrid bracteata, ‘Scarlet Maria Leonida’
I sincerely doubt that is the rose in commerce as all of the REFERENCES are from the 1800s.
Smiles,
Lyn
I can guaranty it isn’t. What’s been pictured on GW and Dave’s Garden looks very much like Red Cascade. Kim