2009 breeding spreadsheet (incomplete)

Thanks, Paul. Wasn’t it here David reported that Softlegs is triploid? I remember reading it somewhere… Doesn’t matter, the roses will do what THEY want to do, anyway!

So, what have you put Candleflame on…hehehe Kim

Kim, I have no idea what “Softlegs” is!

Softee X Legacy!

OK, I moved one of my plants of ‘Candleflame’ down to the main breeding house, poised and ready for action. Happy now? :stuck_out_tongue:

‘Softlegs’… what a great name! I love it! I put ‘Softee’ onto ‘Scabrosa’ this season… don’t think I’ll be calling it ‘Softscab’ though LOL

“Scabree”?

“Scabee” maybe… so wrong…

Hi Paul,

Can you say whether anything came of these particular crosses?

101-09, Arthur Bell x Reve d’Or

97-09, Golden Angel x Reve d’Or

104-09, Joycie x Reve d’Or

Hi Don,

Thats a firm NO in every case: all were total junk and went quickly to the burn pile. 101-09 barely germinated (Arthur Bell is a terrible germinator, period: I gave the plant away)

The other two were tragically Mildewed runty plants, and the few that did flower were off-whites and insipid pale yellows. I have since given away my Reve d’Or as well, for this reason. Ugh.

tragically Mildewed runty plants

I hope you’ll give us a rundown of what remains in your stable after the storm passes :slight_smile:

I have since given away my Reve d’Or as well

Did you ever try to use it as the seed parent with strong yellows like Joycie, Golden Angel and the like and, if so, do you recall the results?

“Did you ever try to use it as the seed parent with strong yellows like Joycie, Golden Angel and the like and, if so, do you recall the results?”

Hi Don,

Yes, I did, and seed set was very poor. My records show no seedlings resulted, so I assume that means I got no germination. I’m sure that with enough effort, and a large enough volume of seed, it would be possible to obtain a seedling or two with some color and reasonable health. I simply didn’t get a large enough population to see the full spectrum of possibilities.

"I hope you’ll give us a rundown of what remains in your stable after the storm passes :slight_smile: "

I can tell you that the culling is proceeding most aggressively, an action that I will no doubt appreciate in the years to come. The plants that are being kept are mostly species crosses and Rugosa hybrids, with pretty much nothing remaining that involves more than a fraction of HT or Floribundas genes. My ‘Therese Bugnet’ hybrids are some of the very best new hybrids I have right now and I am quite enthused about their potential. More to come, eventually.

Paul, I notice you used Therese Bugnet for pollen. What was your thinking for that?

Kim, how did Adelaide Hoodless work out as a mother? How does such a northern rose do in the dry south?

It’s great to see that you are working with hardier roses and rugosas.

I would really like to visit sometime and learn from you.

Do you still need or want Prairie Peace, as is indicated on HMF?

Hi Lydia, nothing germinated from any of her hips. She grew very large with beautiful, saturated red double flowers. The plant always looked stressed, though continued flowering like a weed. It just wasn’t pretty here, obviously resenting the high heat. I sent her off to a better home at a friend’s place in the mountains which is a ski resort in the winter. She’ll have a very good, heavy winter rest period with lots of snow and regular automatic watering. She’ll also have some filtered shade from some of the large evergreens dotting the property. I loved her blooms but just couldn’t accommodate what they arrived on. It’s rather freeing to reduce your “collection” by a full third, with more to leave. Kim

Thats right Kim: far better to grow a few good varieties than many poor ones.

99% of available varieties arent worth garden space.

Dave ;

I agree with you there,Quality is better than quantity. I probably end up with about 300-500 seedlings and with the first cull taking it down to 200, these are then assessed again in autumn and what is left, is what I was after in my breeding programme. You hear of amateur breeders putting down thousands if not in the ten of thousands of seed, but what makes me wonder, how many acres of land do they have out the back of the house. Those 200 of mine are planted out in a field situation when reaching a height of 6" minimum and are exposed to all elements that mother nature throws at them.In the link there is a bed of seedlings which I put down in August 2010, this photo was taken in December 2010.

Link: i29.servimg.com/u/f29/15/69/45/38/01012.jpg

Thanks for asking.

I for one rent 10 acres of agricultural land and plant annually more or less 1,25 acres.

‘Therese Bugnet’: hardiness, hybrid vigor, foliage character, ease of culture, fragrance, disease resistance. It can bring many of these traits into a breeding line. Some of my TB seedlings are remarkably vigorous, healthy, beautiful shrubs.

Paul

Sorry I didn’t make myself clear. As someone who breeds with TB I just wondered why you used if for pollen rather than seed.

Lydia,

I have found it nearly impossible to get hybrid seed from TB, perhaps its a climate thing.