Love the yellow ‘eye’.
The first photo is similar to the plants I breed. I wish that could get polyantha to cross with the blanda/rugosa crosses. I only got 2 seedlings and that they were lanky and had flowers that looked like Rosa multiflora plena. Alot of work went into this project.
I then found breeding with more blanda and less rugosa made a difference. But still I was not getting what I wanted.
Kim,
These so strongly resemble Hugonis and yet all look to enough hybridity to have really nice flowers. Congratulations on the progress.
Thank you! Honestly, I followed what Ralph Moore urged me to do years ago. I chose the minis that produced the more interesting results to cross with the species, then used the healthiest mini available to me to cross with the initial cross. He raised some rather surprising results from Golden Angel. His 1-72-1 also helped create some surprising seedlings. Rise’n Shine, its sibling, can also. It just produces them in lighter, paler colors. Jim’s L56-1 performs like Golden Angel, as does Ralph’s Torch of Liberty. These fertile triploids pick up enough of the species’ traits to look like them, but retain enough of the mini genes to produce repeat bloom and help recover dwarf architecture more easily. Take a look at these to see what I mean. 'Golden Angel X “R. Soulieana - Ralph Moore’s putative version”' Rose Granted, his Soulieana is odd because it produced repeat flowering in the first generation, but this result from Golden Angel in one generation? 'Golden Angelcalnana' Rose This looks like Californica, but it is a smaller shrub which flowers regularly spring through fall. Torch of Liberty does similarly, but intensifies colors because of its Orangeade genes. Yes, it can increase the potential for black spot susceptibility, but it also permits the more rapid creation of hybrids which may take many generations longer without them. Torch of Liberty X Basye’s Legacy created Lynnie. Lynnie X Basye’s Amphidiploid 86-3 created this 'Lynnie863' Rose How long would any of these results take without these triploids?
Two more of the L56-1 X 1-72-1 Hugonis seedlings are beginning to flower. Isn’t it intriguing that a deep, saturated red mini out of Thrive! crossed with the species cross could produce this?
The next is from the same cross, though on a much more dwarf, miniaturized plant than the previous with its five-foot-plus canes.
Great work Kim, Mr Moore would be proud of your work.
Thanks, David. I often imagine him looking at some of these and grinning that big old grin of his.
Nicely done Kim! Can’t wait to see pics of the second one.
Thanks, Rob. Remember the old Mervyn’s commercials with the customer outside the locked doors, with her hand gestures and the “OPEN! OPEN! OPEN!”? Well… LOL!
Here are a few more results I just photographed. L56-1 crossed with R. Minutifolia, producing several seedlings. This is the most vigorous. And is about to flower.
L56-1 with four seedlings using pollen from my Stellata mirifica X Fedtschenkoana potential hybrid, Puzzlement. Each is a different seedling.
These germinated in 2015 and are setting flower buds now, just shy of their one year birthday. Several flowered their first year. L56 has also crossed with OGRs, with Crestline Mulberry
and Mutabilis
. These are definitely, at least, partial hybrids. The “wild looking” L56-Puzzlement seedling didn’t flower last year, and is now. But look at this new basal break! Scary!
This out of a “mini”!
I found that your ILC1-72-1 produced a lot of yellows not matter what I used it with. Could 1-72-1 have a huge color influence?
Yes, Rob, it does. First, Indian Love Call is Anne Harkness (yellowish) X Legacy. Double that with 1-72-1 which was selected for breeding over its sister, 1-72-2 (Rise’n Shine), because 1-72-1 produced yellow seedlings of better health and better, stronger color. Rise’n Shine makes whites and pastels.