Hello to all!
I took these two photos in a nearby rose garden at the beginning of June 2025. In all the previous years I had been there either earlier or later so I had not seen the flower before. It is a single-flowering wild hybrid, I think a Hybrid Moyesii. I would have liked to know the name of the rose, but unfortunately there was no identification plate available. A quick look at Hmf put me on the trail of Eddie’s Juwel? Does anyone have another/better guess? Thanks for help.
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My Eddie’s Crimson this morning - my first guess. Not cane hardy 100% in my garden. I have an Ethos … in back in decline though old - not hardy.
** Edit June 27
erratum: should be EOS by Rhys not Ethos - bloom too small to be your rose in question**
Eddies Crimison
Background red single (tall) … M6910
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The bronze elongated prickled hips seem to be very distinct. Does the foliage have fragrance? What do the flowers smell like?
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I can’t say anything about the smell. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get close enough. David Austin describes the flowers as slightly perfumed.
Both of the Scottish - Canadian Eddie’s Crimson and Jewel roses set hips according to hmf - saw a magnificent one at nursery on Vancouver island now gone commercial or gone. Can’t say l took note of name of rose BBN. Reminded me of huge - but not same scale - Tombstone rose.
Think Eddie created them when in a nursery in British Columbia Canada - latter could be me starting a rumour (doubt it).
If you believe the photos on helpmefind looks like Jewel not a true single. Crimson is in my garden (img).
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RikuHelin, many thanks for your important note! It is a true single, so I would agree that this rose is much more Eddie’s Crimson.
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Maybe that’s R. moyesii itself.
From my point of view, the leaves of R. moyesii are smaller and somewhat differently shaped. The distance between the leaflet pairs is greater. (see the two attached photos) I also remember the flowers of the rose in question being somewhat larger. Unfortunately, the flowering period is already over. On my next visit I will try to get hold of a leaf somehow. Then a comparison will be easier. Thanks anyway!
Same point of view from looking at the one in my yard. Suffers from not hardy.
Sold as geranium, nope, pink, not red blooms.
Likely R. Moyessi “ the pink”. Not ur ? Rose ?
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Hi RikuHelin,unfortunately, I have not yet seen ‘Geranium’ yet. It makes an open bush with few rather stiff stems up to 2,5m high. The foliage is rather delicate light green, as are the stems. The hips of R. moyesii have usually green sepals. Maybe that’s useful, but maybe you already know these details.
(source: book Roses, Roger Philipps & Martyn Rix)
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It could also possibly be R. moyesii ‘Geranium’.
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Update on that matter:
Thank you very much for all your assistance! As promised, I visited the public rose garden to compare the two roses again. Unfortunately, due to the extreme weather conditions this growing season, neither of the two roses is bearing hips, which means they cannot be used for further identification. Even very few leaves remained on the shrubs.
Based on my visuals of flowers, leaves and the growth architecture, I think one can assume that the two roses are not identical but of course closely related.
Krüssmann, G. (1981). ‘‘The Complete Book of Roses’’ is stating, that the flowers of R. x highdownensis Hillier. are crimson-red with white centers on arching branches. A trait that applies at least to the rose in question.( below: picture on the left side and in larger format at the beginning of the topic)
Whether this specification is also valid for ‘Geranium’ is difficult to assess for me based on all the diverse images around. Most public pictures of ‘Geranium’ do not show this white center, or show it much less distinctly. The occasional misidentification of varieties makes a clear definition challenging.
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Pity, l had R highdownesis and R nevada decades ago. Both did not survive winter.