This is a cross I did back in 2009. The colours are unbelievable, real hot pink, but unfortunately the blooms show a bit of cold damage. The cross was Sympathie X ( Shirley Jean X Unk Apricot blend HT). Health is very good but has taken a little while to find its legs.
[attachment 676 19e50f.jpg] The unnamed seedling (Shirley Jean X Unk) was used in one breeding cycle and then discarded.
Warren,
Compliments on this rose. I have noticed that Sympathie seems to turn out some lovely and healthy looking offspring (remember your previous photos as well as the photos of others)… Seems to me Sympathie would be a good foundation stock for anyone starting hybridizing.
At my stage in life, I am adopting Ralph Moore’s philosophy, "Work with what you have " though I have been on a spending spree since January buying thornless grocery store mini’s (up to 7 now). People must wonder when they see my fingers disappear into the plants and I run them up and down the stems. Almost weakened on one the other day, it had only a few, but resolutely denied myself the purchase. Of course, they may turn out to be bombs in the garden but I am looking forward to the experience.
A lovely rose; love seeing all your babies and thanks for posting.
Jim P
Sympathie is on my list of top 5 climbers. It is an awesome rose. It is effectively the red “New Dawn”.
I tried it as a seed parent, but it only germinated at some intervals. I should try using it again as a pollen parent.
That’s a beauty, Warren. Love the color and fullness of the blooms. I can’t help but think she ought to be fragrant. Does she want to be a climber?
I have wondered about Sympathie for several years, but don’t yet have her. Do her offspring frequently acquire fragrance too? And what kind of architecture/form does she impart to her offspring in your experience?
Thanks for sharing. Photos are always an inspiration.
Beautiful color and form, Warren!
Beautiful color and flower-that should stand out in the garden. Sympathie seems to work for several people on this forum. What is the percentage (approx.) of climbers that she produces?
As Jim P said Sympathie is a great cultivar to get started on, fertility is very good both ways, germination rates are very good, seedling health and vigour is awesome. I find its health here at home is good with the health of the offspring determined greatly by what you cross it with and with flower form it can vary as well. This was a cross of Sympathie X Just Joey which took me by total supprise by its bloom structure, it also has a big fruity scent.
[attachment 677 19E14F.jpg] The percentage rate of climbers and very large shrubs produced is around 40%, with around 5% not producing blooms within the first year.
Hi Warren,
Both of these are very beautiful. I have not tried ‘Sympathie’, but will have to keep my eyes opened for this one. I like hearing about the vigor and health of its offspring.
Jim, I grew Sympathie at the beach from Ashdown and it was healthy, vigorous and gorgeous! Michael Ishak grows it at his Palos Verde Estates home and it was spectacular every time I’ve ever seen it.
Jim S, if you want gusto in your seedlings you can use Altissimo and Sympathie, they both produce offspring with incredible vigour and health. Sympathie has the advantage of being double and seems to take almost all pollen, which is a big plus. Each hip contains 20 + seeds .Kim it flowers quite early here with sporatic flowering through out summer, its a red I find quite pleasing to the eye…
I agree, it’s a gorgeous red, very saturated, dense.
Here are two Sympathie X Kabookie offspring , there is a great difference in structure type, all have a killer perfume.
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Wow, fantastic roses!