SW figures into pedigrees of a few decent mauve roses. Is anyone familiar with her? This is not the Summerwine that is in parentage of Julia Child, but rather “Summer Wine” in Blue for You and Rhapsody in Blue to which I’m referring, and whose parentage is not given.
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A friend who also loves single and nearly single roses grows it in Atlanta. Fairly good rebloom for a climber. Scalloped petals and red anthers really enhance the blooms. Heirloom sells it.
Stephen
This is a gorgeous climber. It has kordesii type leaves, but stiff, upward, yet branching, growth. It blooms a lot, and the color is like a coastal sunset.
I have Summer Wine, and it is (using a borrowed term here) rudely healthy, and almost the same for fertile. It does seem to produce mostly climbers, or large vigorous bushes. But I only used it one year, to see what it would produce, and unfortunately used it with a couple of large vigorous mates, and got climbers. Very pretty flowers, very nice fragrance,
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and this past season I used it again for a pollen that did not seem very compatible with anything, but Summer Wine was more than accommodating. So I will again have a few seedlings to check it out with. I have a very beautiful long stemmed cross from Summer Wine with Rt 66 that I did keep, a very pale shell pink, nicely formed large cut type flower, but it does get a bit of blackspot. It may still out grow it, and it is a good flower producer. Summer Wine has been quite resistant to all problems. Summer Wine seeds were a bit on the slow side to germinate, but since I have only used in one season, that is not perhaps always the case.
Does anyone else find it perverse that Summer Wine and Route 66 would produce pastel pink? LOL!
Yes, Kim. Perverse indeed. Very perverse…
But it sounds like a worthy prospective parent nonetheless.
I have one climber that I kept that has yet to bloom-hopefully this yr., which has been spotless. Otherwise all the offspring were indeed coral pink to pastel pink, with Gemini and Rt.66. Like Michael said it is a good bloomer when well established.
I do like the form of those, Jackie, and as pink goes, one could certainly get worse.
Still, I was really hoping that there might be potential for mauves. (Perverse…) How many seedlings did you germinate, if I may ask, from those two crosses? (And what rate of mauve offspring should one expect from route 66 and a rose that has created mauve babies?)
Did some phototropic qualities (darkening) come out on the first Gemini cross, Jackie? (…he asked, hoping to learn that the plant has potential to easily take new traits from mates…)
Lastly, does anyone know if it has any tolerance for drought? I’m guessing it has a good strong root system.
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first question: I believe it has a very good root system, got a bit on the dry side this past summer, but kept blooming. It is in a very hot spot, sun up to sun down heat off the driveway, but it took about 3 yrs for it to get well established. This may have been more about the spot (hot) than the rose.
I did not get any mauves or purples, but not all the roses got a chance to get to their blooming size-the wind knocked over two tables of really vigorous seedlings in a hot dry windy Santa Ana (most Santa Ana’s are hot and dry-not all) and I did not discover them for three days or so-many were history. Rt 66 usually gives me purples, magentas, and fuchsia colors with occasional blue toned reds, but I have gotten a few with white to yellow phototropic to pink/salmon.
Gemini played a big role in the shape of the two pictured above. Very typical, and Gemini often gives a phototropic coloration.
I would not discount the ability to get mauve or purple toned with SW x Rt66. With only one incomplete batch, it is difficult to judge. I have seen variations occasionally that would not look like they came from the same parent. However, some parents apparently have similar enough genetics that the results never vary. I think it is hard to make those decisions based on a small sampling. Rt 66 certainly has a varied background. Would not hazard a guess on SW.
So, I had Summer Wine years ago and thought it had been swallowed up by my black acacia (Acacia melanoxylon) hedge. Well, I had some tree trimmers here today and they pulled a long rose cane out and behold, it’s Summer Wine! I rescued the cane and chopped it up into about a dozen cuttings. Who wants a couple? Let me know!