Rose ID request

I acquired this rose back in 2010 from a man whose mother and grandmother grew it. He estimated they had grown it for more than 80 years between them. It grows on 6-8ft tall thick almost woody arching canes. It starts off reddish orange and yellow and ends in a light yellowish orange. Fully opened it ranges from 4-6 inches. With a strong perfume fragrance. It’s also a repeat bloomer.


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It reminds me a bit of Sutter’s Gold, with those orange blush tones over golden yellow. Does the color lean towards a more yellow hue as it ages?

Sort of. The center turns yellow and the pedals have orange or reddish streaks radiating up the flowers that become more apparent as the inner parts yellow. I’ll take more pictures as they open. This is the first of the season and it produces around 50 at a go.

Also it’s quite tall. The growth size of Sutter’s gold seems to be 90cm in height. I took the picture while standing on the porch and the flower is 183 cm off the ground and the entire plant is 264cm tall unsupported. It may be just a very happy example of Sutter’s gold though. .

Ooo…I want to know what this is too! Over 2.5m (:heart_eyes:), orange tones, dark (healthy looking) leaves, very fragrant, looks lush.
(Just checked HMF and the climbing Sutters Gold has the features you describe.
How spikey is it, please, does it develop hips and do the blooms blow out to an informal shape?)

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The blooms do blow out and the hips are quite large turning a light orange when ripe. They normally yield 3-4 seeds that range from split pea to pea size.

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In the right climate, the standard form of Sutters Gold can get larger than its listed height. In SoCal - for example - I wouldn’t be surprised to see it growing at least 6 feet tall if left to its own devices.
Unfortunately it loathes my climate (and soil) and struggles to make a couple of foot-tall canes after twenty years.

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Sutter’s Gold has been found in several Gold Country Cemeteries over the years. After being allowed to do their own thing for so long, many appear to be the climbing sport left unsupported. It’s remarkable how healthy it can be where there is no humidity.

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Here are is the same blossom. It’s flowers are kind of small with a dry winter and weather jumping between freezing and hot so much this year. Hopefully the later blossoms will reach their 6 inch max.


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Well it has fine spines on new growth that give way to a relatively few much larger spines. If you have ever smelled distilled French rose oil with that sharp acrid rose scent that can be tasted on the palate. I believe it is a Sutters Gold Climber adapted to regional conditions which do not mirror normal climates that Sutters Gold grows in. I live in an Isothermal zone with 7b-8a conditions. Long hot summers with 90%+ humidity and winters that range from cool and moist to cold and moist. Most of the time it doesn’t get cold enough for the Iris to bloom in the spring. It also doesn’t appear to have black spot or mildew problems. I will say it produces copious amounts of hips.

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