Red sparkler

General Discussion
#1

i am searching for this rose, also called rippled velvet. in lue of that, are there other varieties with a stable stripped genome/

#2

I don’t think this rose is available. However if what you are looking for is something to pass on stripes you can use Pinstripe or Roller Coaster.

#3

Thanks John. i dont really want to breed minis. Any suggestions on a ‘standard’ sized rose for this purpose/

ron

#4

Ron,

Your best bet is to use ‘Pinstripe’ as a pollen parent and select for full-sized offspring. There will be some ninis in the seedlings, but larger plants also. You may be doing yourself a favor by choosing ‘Pinstripe’ because it is a proven breeder and it will tend to make your results more compact with a better branching habit. Striped roses tend to produce very leggy offspring, and a lot of climbers. If you don’t mind that, then ‘Ferdinand Pichard’ will produce some offspring of this type, however, it will also give you a lot of disease prone offspring. Again, ‘Pinstripe’ will do a better job. You might want to try ‘Scentimental’, but it has not proven itself as a breeder. I don’t know if it is fertile or not.

Paul

#5

Ron,

I checked and it appears that ‘Scentimental’ has some registered offspring, two of which are red and white stripes. It appears to work as both seed and pollen parent.

Paul

#6

Hmmm, I was under the impression (borne up by very limited actual experience) that ‘Scentimental’ was much more fertile as a pollen parent than a seed parent.

My ‘Scentimental’ this year was low growing, but very prolific with blooms. It set no hips on its own and (I think) I tried to pollinate a few blooms which rapidly aborted. Some disease, but not too bad (I’m extremely low spray). Even if I wasn’t breeding, this would be a rose I’d want to have around.

Chris Mauchline

SE PA, zone 6

#7

Looks like I’m off to market to buy some roses.

i ve used ferdinand Pichard, honorine de Brabant, Cmt. beaurepaire, an rosa mundi as parents. the stripes rarely breed true. the closest I ve come is a delicataXferdinand pichard. But like you say it is very spindly and bareley striped.

Ron

#8

Scentimetal didnt set hips very well for me but the pollen was definately workable. Michellyn from Rosarians Corner got some strange colors out of it.

#9

Ron,

The striping characteristic is not a dominant trait and a very small percentage of any cross with show decent striping. You just have to select for good striping. Expect only a few seedlings from any cross will be worth saving.