R.Clinophylla x R.Bracteata seedlings from Simon, (ex. Viru

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Here is an update on this one unusual/?repeat flowering seedling of (R.clinophylla X R.bracteata)Xunknown:

It still has PM, but not as much as before.

It has established itself in the ground over the last couple of months over the mild winter here.

It has put out several flower buds over the last few months, all of which were eliminated before opening in order to encourage root and stem development.

I think now is an appropriate time to allow the next few flower buds to proceed to full blooming.

I’ll report on the scent of these flowers soon. I will be watching out for acetone-like scent, as a means of confirming that this is a derivative of (R.clinophylla x R.bracteata), despite its atypical nature for OP of this species cross.

Now for a little update on my other four (R.clinophyla X R.bracteata)XOP seedlings which I had pictured at the begining of this thread:

I culled one which was runty, and another which was healthy but resembled R.clinophylla too much. I kept two which showed the maximum amount of R.bracteata characteristics…both these (R.clinophylla X R.bracteata)XOP plants are free of disease and vigorous growers, and are now established and growing in the ground. They have continued to thrive and put out new growth in the winter months here.

Here is one of the flower buds of what I am now tentatively calling “[R.clinophylla X R.bracteata X unknonwn]”, for want of a more accurate description at this stage of its identification.

I picked this flower bud late yesterday evening (it was raining quite a bit, I thought I might be lucky enough to get it to open up indoors).

It has a slight pink tinge on the back of one guard petal as you can see. Note also the Powdery Mildew on the sepals:



There are several of these flower buds on this little bush at the moment. It has wanted to pop flower buds sporadically throughout the winter.

I have to admit it is now NOT a vigorous grower compred to its two clinophylla X bracteata cousins (particulrly so since the PM attack took hold of it, a few months back). It has a slender bushy architecture, which looks nothing like the more solid and arching cane architecture of its two sibling clinophylla X bracteta. I have still not seen a single prickle on any of its parts!

UPDATE:

The flower above did not open in the vase (tomorrow I should have an open flower to pick and photograph for you, if the weather remains good).

Today I noticed one or two insignificant tiny tiny prickes on some of the newer stems (these were no comparison to its well armed very prickly clinobracteata siblings). I wonder if this plant will become prickly as it matures - can this happen with young rose seedlings, anyone??

Here are a few shots of a flower from repeat blooming (R.clinophylla x R.bracteata)Xunknown, taken a few hours ago.

The flowers are quite tiny, and the plant itself has much thinner growth when comapred to its sibling clinobracteatas of exactly the same age. When this flower was viewed in strong sunlight, the petals showed a warmer yellow tone in their centres than is evident in these shots. However, the pink tones captured here are, in fact, quite accurate:







All the individual petals (top surface):



The sepals (quite an uneven length!):



Close up of anthers/filaments and stigmas/styles:



A typical leaf (and some powdery mildew-related distortion):



The reverse of the above leaf:


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The flowers have a faint but definite pleasant fragrance.

The best description of the scent I can offer thus far is an hint of sweet basil.

I reckon I know what has happened. One of the 10,000 Camellia’s Red China Rose seeds must have ended up in the batch. It looks the same as the china seedlings I have at the moment. Got a whiteish one too… some with similar leaf shapes. I’d say this one is not a clinophylla derived seedling at all. Still a good plant to have.

One with similar, three leaflet, leaves.

Bud on my whiteish one. Also has a tendency to mildew.