question about seedlings

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hello everyone

I have a question which may be obvious to some of you but since I have yet to collect hips and plant seeds for the first time I don’t know what to expect and I was told in my first post here that there are no stupid questions.

my question is;

if you collect and plant say 10 seeds from the same hip, when they grow and bloom do they all look like their parents and other ancestors or do you get 10 plants that all look alike?

of course I am referring to a controlled situation of doing your own pollination instead of wondering where the bee may have been last.

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Getting two plants that look exactly the same . . . is quite unlikely. Getting ten that look exactly the same would be a miracle.

You may expect that there will be some common characteristics, but colors may appear from the grandparents or great-grandparents, etc. If the two roses you’ve crossed have the same color (red, let’s say), and their parents were also red, probably most of the seedlings will have red flowers, but you will find some surprises even in crosses of roses that are the same color.

You really don’t know quite what you will get, and that is one of the interesting things about this hobby.

Peter

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Hi Bill…"just like a box of chocolates you never know what you may get…i have seen 15 seed from the same hip turn out to be all different from each other… and then 15 seed from another nearly the same… that what makes it so much fun …the unknown…

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Howdy Bill;

I used Wendy crossed with Abraham Darby and got 13 different variations from bloom structure to different colours. As Peter said, this is one of the interesting things about this hobby. Go to HMF and do a search of Wendy, in lineage and then descendants by generation,you will see what we are talking about

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thanks peter

so I suppose you have to use stem or root cuttings, grafting and budding to get offspring to look like the parent plant.

I guess roses are like children (she’s got grandma’s eyes) ect.

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thanks larry and warren for your input



forgive me but I don’t know what HMF is

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As everyone said, Bill, many may resemble each other a good deal, or not. Unless you’re using the mini, Little Artist. Everything I ever raised from either its seed or pollen looked like a carbon copy of it. Dumped that one quickly!

HMF is Help Me Find-Roses. All the information you could possibly hope to find in one place, as current and recent as humanly possible! WELL worth the premium membership price! Kim

Link: www.helpmefind.com/gardening/index.php

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thanks Kim



I am slowly learning the shorthand on this site.

thanks everyone for your responses. I will bookmark HMF for future reference.

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HMF is awesome.

thank you for sending the link Kim

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You’re welcome Bill. You’re going to LOVE this site! Kim