Sorry, I did not mean that pollen was available from the triploid yellow- too much of my own work to let it go until I germinate the seeds in the fridge from the cross of the two parents that I mentioned. I have been working on them 9 years
I am forced to give up on the polyanthas, I got some plants off ‘Perle d’Or’/orange Mothersday but they were less than hardy and very infertile. I also went to the extreme of ordering Tea roses from Peter Beales in England. They ship January so to protect them from frost they were sent to a greenhouse/nursery in Victoria BC and then May they were sent here in Alberta. I fell love…but the frigin’ things are less fertile than a mule and they would not accept cassiorhodon pollen. I would would fall in these pretties
I find that It is much more reliable to work within the Cassiorhodon except when I am injecting one or two genes like true red, a touch of yellow. Many other characterisatics have have been introduced to Cass for me. I still see that Brousault may help.
Deep dpwn I think that wide crosses are not going to help me. Also why just get another HT even if it is slghly hardier. Johannes
These Pics are of a Metis hybr. that reblooms with a start to a good shape.
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Paul, with triploids I was able to cross one onto a (Fru Dagmar Hartupp X Rosa blanda) this year. I will see if the seedlings germinate. Also iam finding that Ames 5 and Rosa multiflora survive my winters. Thanks for the insight.
I can understand that you don’t want to share your baby just yet. I feel the same way about a few of my roses too. Only after I’m done playing around with them will I share them.
The Polys and the Teas are so distant from the Cassiorhodon that it’s really rare to get a cross from them and even rarer to get one that’s fertile. That’s why I was so surprised that I got some seedlings from Marie Pavie x R. blanda cross. I only got 4 seedlings from it and two you could tell had compatibility issues because of their weird growth. The other two grew well though one was completely sterile but the last one did produce some pollen and also now a few hips as well.
I don’t know how viable Pax Apollo pollen is, I tried it on Darts Dash and Blanc Double de Coubert but none of the pollinations took. My (Marie Pavie x R. blanda) didn’t take on pure rugosas either, it only took on a hybrid, so you might get Pax Apollo pollen to work on a hybrid as well. There are other Cassiorhodon hybrids out there that you could try also like some Hybrid Rugosas or even some from the Parkland series, they have some R. arkansana in them.
There are many great hardy cassiorhodon hybrids developed on the Prairies from Skinner to Erskine. Much of the work has been done, but we need to recombine and get away from PINK. Part of the problem for me is that I don;t like the rugose leaves and gray stems of true Rosa rugosa. I tend to be more attracted to the hybrids that were developed with ‘Betty Bland’. Luckly many of these plants have been saved at the Devonian Gardens just outside Edmonton.
I still find that I have to go back to using a ( Rosa woodsii X Rugosa hyb) cross to introduce the long buds of rug. and the ever important hardiness from woodsii.
There is no magical cross like ‘La France’ I think that I will have nothing to introduce for another 7-10 yrs
Johannes, I was being realistic. I have read about 99% of the posts since about 2005, and I can say that diploids are discussed in detail a lot. Artic/Nordic type hybrids, however, do not always get the spot light, but a lot of people here love discussing and breeding them.