Portland roses as mothers

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Indigo X Stanwell perpetual

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Indigo X Stanwell perpetual


Even smells like stanwell

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Yes , on to its third flush!

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This is truly perpetual, once it started flowering it has never stopped. Wondering how I prune it hahaha

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My Rose de rescht looks awful again now, the worst of all my roses… which is a shame as it is one of my favourites!!! The time has come where I must consider moving mine to a better location… Do you have photos of where yours is so I can make a better educated move?

Hi James, here’s my rose de rescht looking healthy as ever

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A much shader spot seems to be a good plan, however if it’s not a good mother the best way for me to get anything is from it’s pollen… so full sun & heat seems to produce more anthers… or so I find

This rose was culled, amazing flower, smelled great, covered with black spot worse than I have ever seen. So far every rose I have got using duchess of Portland as pollen parent has been very sickly

The few reasonably healthy roses I got from any Portland type were from ā€˜Marbree’. It sets seed easily and it generates many decent plants. But beware! Most of its offspring will be difficult, if not impossible to propagate by rooting cuttings! I have some very nice ā€˜Marbree’ seedlings that I cannot distribute because I can’t root cuttings from them.

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Hi Paul, have you tried layering or budding your Marbree seedlings onto a rootstock?

Got a few more hips from a marbree rose (can’t buy one in the UK) this year I got "x14 seedlings all so sickly I got rid of them all

Hey Brian. If I have to employ ā€œextreme measuresā€ to propagate a rose, then it has not passed the basic market worthiness test. IMO a rose has to be at least relatively easily propagated by cuttings to be worth naming/distribution.

IIRC (it was twenty years ago), I did attempt to bud some Marbree seedlings onto a couple of rootstocks and none took. There’s a limit to what I’m willing to do to propagate a variety. I’ve got a beautiful double red Kordesii hybrid that I’d love to distribute, but it suffers from the same problem: flatly refuses to make roots on cuttings.

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Unusual in the British market to buy own root roses, however the fact that this didn’t take via budding is concerning

So I am finding once again that all my Marbree seedlings seem to be struggling a lot more than anything else. I thought I read somewhere they don’t do well on their own root? I will keep them on as I am intrigued to see if they will grow out of it…

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My rose de rescht op
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Wow that’s an interesting colour, anything else nearby that could have pollinated it?

Hi @Alberto ! Congratulations on these two beautiful and amazing seedlings! The second one resembles ā€˜Indigo’ or ā€˜Nuits de Young’ a bit in color. To identify the roses in the surrounding area could be therefore interesting. Since I also breed with ā€˜Rose de Rescht,’ I’d be interested to know if they are repeat-flowering and have inherited that wonderful fragrance.