Portland roses as mothers

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Indigo X Stanwell perpetual

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Indigo X Stanwell perpetual

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Even smells like stanwell

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Yes , on to its third flush!

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This is truly perpetual, once it started flowering it has never stopped. Wondering how I prune it hahaha

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My Rose de rescht looks awful again now, the worst of all my rosesā€¦ which is a shame as it is one of my favourites!!! The time has come where I must consider moving mine to a better locationā€¦ Do you have photos of where yours is so I can make a better educated move?

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Hi James, hereā€™s my rose de rescht looking healthy as ever

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A much shader spot seems to be a good plan, however if itā€™s not a good mother the best way for me to get anything is from itā€™s pollenā€¦ so full sun & heat seems to produce more anthersā€¦ or so I find

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This rose was culled, amazing flower, smelled great, covered with black spot worse than I have ever seen. So far every rose I have got using duchess of Portland as pollen parent has been very sickly

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The few reasonably healthy roses I got from any Portland type were from ā€˜Marbreeā€™. It sets seed easily and it generates many decent plants. But beware! Most of its offspring will be difficult, if not impossible to propagate by rooting cuttings! I have some very nice ā€˜Marbreeā€™ seedlings that I cannot distribute because I canā€™t root cuttings from them.

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Hi Paul, have you tried layering or budding your Marbree seedlings onto a rootstock?

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Got a few more hips from a marbree rose (canā€™t buy one in the UK) this year I got "x14 seedlings all so sickly I got rid of them all

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Hey Brian. If I have to employ ā€œextreme measuresā€ to propagate a rose, then it has not passed the basic market worthiness test. IMO a rose has to be at least relatively easily propagated by cuttings to be worth naming/distribution.

IIRC (it was twenty years ago), I did attempt to bud some Marbree seedlings onto a couple of rootstocks and none took. Thereā€™s a limit to what Iā€™m willing to do to propagate a variety. Iā€™ve got a beautiful double red Kordesii hybrid that Iā€™d love to distribute, but it suffers from the same problem: flatly refuses to make roots on cuttings.

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Unusual in the British market to buy own root roses, however the fact that this didnā€™t take via budding is concerning