Pollen parent influence on germination of R. foliolosa seeds

I thought this was very interesting. I have a batch of R. foliolosa x Lemon Fizz and a batch of R. foliolosa x Commander Gillette in the same seedling flat right next to each other. The overall germination rate seems to be similar, but the seeds with CG as pollen parent appear to be germinating a few days later that those with Lemon Fizz as a pollen parent. You might have to expand the picture and look closely to see the newly emerging seedlings of the CG cross.

This seems to indicate that the pollen parent has a distinct influence on germination time. However, it is impossible to rule out a difference in hip maturity between the two crosses, since I didn’t record when the crosses were made.

Also in the same seedling flat there are a bunch of R. foliolosa x Grouse that have, on average, a distinctly darker cotyledon color than the foliolosa x Lemon Fizz. The relative uniformity of the differences between the seedlings of all three pollen parents, both in germination timing and cotyledon color, along with the high germination rates, makes me excited about using R. foliolosa. It seems to be very amenable to a wide range of pollens and not prone to selfing.
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The American Rose, p. 15, Oct. 1958.
Male Controls Sprouting
Edward B. Risley
Durham, N. H.

A REVIEW of data collected in 1955 has revealed evidence that the particular rose variety used as the pollen parent may influence the length of time that must pass before the seeds will germinate. When the pollen has a direct effect on the seed tissues, other than the embryo, the effect is known as xenia. The color of the seed of the pollen parent has long been known to control the color of the kernels on an ear of corn, and this is cited as the classic example of xenia. In other plants, xenia is rare.

http://bulbnrose.x10.mx/Roses/breeding/Risley.html

I would not call this xenia, because the paternal influence is probably due to differences in growth rate at low temperatures. Thus, the influence is in the embryo/seedling rather than in the maternal tissues.

Joe,

What was the source of your foliolosa?

Mark

Mark,

Rogue Valley Roses.

Joe