I’ve been enjoying hybrid musks quite a lot, ‘Plaisanterie’ has been a dream to work with, at least I got a high germination rate from it and have over four seedlings that I’ve planted out. I’ve named one seedling, a believed cross with ‘Sven’ that’s the OP I’ve been talking about; ‘Enjoue’ which is a pun off of ‘Plaisanterie’ meaning ‘playful’ or ‘kittenish’.
Wondering about other ‘Trier’ derived stuff is worth tinkering with?
A lot of the them seem a bit repetitious, ‘Thisbe’, ‘Danae’,
‘Castillo’, ‘Francesca’ all sorta peachy-buff and yellow, my favorite color group. Any others stand out more than the others? ‘Clytemnestra’ seems the prettiest coloring of the bunch…
For musks I currently own ‘Darlow’s Enigma’ and ‘Plaisanterie’ and ‘Buff Beauty’. ‘Sven’, ‘Lena’ and ‘Ole’ are more polythana but do show musk traits.
For my china/tea/noisette mixes I have ‘Arethusa’, ‘Crepuscule’, and the mini ‘Softee’ as well as ‘Comtesse du Caya’ and ‘Mutabilis’, that’s really all my peach-pink-buff anything to do with musks/china/noisettes (except ‘Smith’s Parish’ which I have but I think that’s pretty infertile right?)
One of the things I wanna eventually do is I’m wanting to do some musk and or ‘Crepuscule’ crosses with more compact roses like ‘String of Pearls’, ‘Unconditional Love’ and ‘Softee’ to make some mini-musk type shrubs, or smaller more compact shrubs with musk coloring/type flowers.
Roses like ‘Etoile de Feu’, ‘William Allen Richardson’ and ‘Crepuscule’ really make me drool but most roses that look like that, you can’t grow them here no-spray or are much too tender. ‘Crepuscule’ is extremely healthy here, but is slightly winter tender in zone 7a Maryland. I’m wanting to get those kind of blowsy buff/yellow/cream type flowers and color, onto smaller, more healthy/hardy shrubs essentially.
Hoping I can get some ideas if any of the Pemberton musks could be good for this purpose>
Any of them more compact than the others? Or I guess they all want to climb and scramble like ‘Trier’?