Big thanks, clearer for sure.
I am scratching my head about some seedlings, mainly from 2023 germination year and one in particular. The one l call my prize seedling, due to climate robustness and pm resistance. However l am beginning to wonder if a post person was involved in its genetics.
No matter how critically l look at my prize crossing, l see nothing, to imagined? similarities to the pollen/seed parents. It does have real tangential and vague similarities to the pollen parent. Mainly for leaf form and individual leaf count (7 to 9 leaves per leaf stem). But not an individual leaf on leaf stem (forget tech term).
The color is a different green shade with no distinct grey blush shading (like light dusting) of pollen parent. Green is like the seed parent but darker and thats it.
Bush form l call fountain shaped. The parents are not - one is (was) shrub shaped, the second l lack descriptors for it. Call it primative, robust, wild and going every which way. Canes stiff as a brick for the most part … also known sometimes as a species. Origins European nursery.
Canes have no middle parental ground or pole for form of prickles, numbers/density, geometry and location on cane.
Hardiness? Seems to depend on winter. First and second winter swore it was solid pollen parent influence until this spring. This year it cracked (under pressure). Though hardiness still good (my seed parent goes three winters only even with using an extravagant degree of protection). Odd as l believe this Pirjo hybrid comes from the Helsinki area or my hill in foothills is harsher.
Started throwing out starter canes this spring.
These occur at, or just above soil line from a, relatively speaking, sturdy thick crown primary cane - no others before this spring. Would have thought too young.
Photo shows 6 of the new cane breaks. One is behind expose cane. There are 7 in total. Soil kicked back 2- 3” for my clarity. I speculating since main canes slanted north most broke from south that gets full sun - acclimatized canes are “ burnt umber in color.
Has not bloomed. Better not be a blind shoot special. If it blooms yellow, know it was the post person. Hope it takes the pollen parent blooming characteristic and seed parent color and size.
Pollen parent can be late but goes for weeks blooming right up to mid fall - seed parent one bloom period. I believe pollen parent rumoured to have KSN-copia need check and spelling also.
Nope after neophyte genetic checking it has RoKSN - no copia insertion for continuous bloom? Requires china around to get a RoKSN- copia to give continuous bloom.
That which l read says requires an insertion by a china. Ah learned something, unless what l see, says this happened to my clone. Doubt that much luck. Well my prized seedling forced me to learn something close enough to be real genetic lingo and knowledge. Good rose promoting after the fact.
Sure is obvious from my episode why long periods for field trials. Anyways this rose is what makes species hybridizing interesting to me - first one l have done (beginners luck or hands of the Nordic gods?), using a strong titan rose with a tamed rose.
Thanks again.
PS
“Eva Helin”=
Merveille x R. Fedtschenkoniana
Seedling study name as it needs one from heritage
