No stripes: Sign reads Apathecary rose, Rosa Gallica Verisicolor, 1500’s. (nice color)
and
Second photo no yellow: Reads Scotch Rose, Rosa Spinosissma, petite pink. (That’s one bush)
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Neil,
Not sure I understand the question. Petite Pink Scotch is a found rose.Had it but lost it to rose rosette disease.
Haven’t had it for about 3 years now but from memory, the plant looks like it but mine was in partial shade so the flowers were more pink and I don’t recall them fading to white but maybe they did. Spread very quickly like a ground cover.
The first pic does look like the Apothecary rose-same color.
Jim
Jim I dont think it is the Apothecary rose the flowers are the wrong shape and the foliage looks like a HP
These photos where taken at Norfolk Botanical Garden, Va. in the Colonial Garden section. Due to numerous errors on their tags HMF photos made no sense. Maybe the Petite Pink Scotch photo should be posted to HMF? Meanwhile i’ll pass the word (corrections) back down the line.
Thanks
Neil,
I visited the NBG in 2003 or around then in June and spent a good 4-5 hours walking each single rose bed. At that time, they had no OGR section but was told by a worker that they were planning to prepare one since people had asked about OGRs.
Having been on Garden Web for a number of years and learned about Rose Rosette Disease from Ann Peck and others and seen pics of it, I was surprised to see it not infrequently scattered amongst the rose beds. One thing I did note was that in a rose bed of say twenty of the same variety, only one was infected so it didn’t spread to its adjacent neighbors like blackspot, etc. I immediately knew what it was and asked one of the gardeners and she said a volunteer said it was witch’s broom as if it were the sporadic mutational variations one sees on so many evergreens to become the dwarf and other variations one can purchase. Obviously she didn’t realize it was a disease which could become fatal and obviously none of the horticultural staff knew it either. Maybe I was wrong but I just kept my mouth shut; didn’t want to make waves though I was shocked at the ignorance of the staff.
One thing I did like, instead of having single varietes of a rose or only 2 or 3, they had a whole bed or half a bed of one variety so a minimum of 10, often 20. I liked that in that one could get a feel for the cultivar:growth, vigor, health, flower production, how the blooms mature, etc.
Warren,
Thanks for the correction. I hate to make a judgement from a pic, that is why I didn’t make a definitive on Petite Pink Scotch though I am certainly leaning toward it.
Last night I was on HMFR trying to identify a mislabelled bagged HT which I bought from Home Depot about 10 years ago. It was labelled Ole’ which I knew it wasn’t when it bloomed. I measured the bloom yesterday and it was 5 1/2 inches across and the leaf was 2 1/2 inches across, a medium green flat finish. There was no fragrance to speak of and it was a smouldering red, more on the scarlet side with a blackish red towards the center. I looked at Olympiad and based on the year of introduction thought it might be that. The pics on HMRF couldn’t pick up the exact color but they came about the closest.
Obviously, I am not of the texting generation LOL
Jim