I am looking for a Mr. Moore rose related to ‘Love And Peace’ that sets seed. Does ‘No. 44 stripe’ set seed?
I have ‘Love And Peace’ and it does well here but I have not had any seeds set on it. Of all the striped roses I have it does the best. It has such large bunched of flowers and it does not get hurt by cold winters.
I know that ‘No. 44 stripe’ was never sold but some people might still have it.
Daniel Pennell
Hi Daniel,
We currently have 2 plants of 44 stripe. One is here (in College Station, TX), but it is not doing so well…so no good tissue for cuttings.
The other plant we have is located in Mansfield, TX and is much healthier (at least it was when we were up there in November). However, I don’t know exactly when we’ll be traveling back up there (it’s a good 3 hours north of my current location). We may go back in Feb to supervise the pruning and consolidation of the roses. And that’s a big MAYBE.
I could try and snag some tissue if we go next month, but I don’t know your location. If your are overseas, I won’t be able to ship it to you. If you are in the US, it depends on which state you are located in. (I know that I’ll have to get a phytosanitary certificate to ship to CA and GA, uncertain about other states…)
Before anyone asks…an international phyto certificate cost $70 and I believe a domestic one costs around $50. (And, Dr. Byrne and I usually wind up paying that out of our own pockets!)
Wow! What a long explanation for a simple ‘maybe’ answer! 
Daniel, you need to buy a premium membership to Help Me Find then use it to research lineage. Love and Peace is half Peach Halo, the very rose both Paul Barden and I stated on the Bracteata thread we wouldn’t include in a breeding program. It is weak and selected solely for its “halo”. It is not a good plant and has passed on too many bad traits.
Hula Hoop is a self seedling of 44 Stripe with no listed descendants. “Kim Rupert” is a 44 Stripe cross with Golden Angel. I have raised self seed from it so it does set seed which do germinate. It resulted from the same cross which produced 9 Stripe. 9 Stripe resulted in Best Friend and Moore’s Striped Rugosa.
44 Stripe does set seed. I remember the tables full of 44 Stripe at Sequoia with large heads of ripening hips on it much of the year. Ralph usually used stripes for pollen because they frequently produced better pollen than seed, but many will set viable seed. Cleaning sticky, prickly hips is not a fun job, so utilizing them for pollen is a much happier task!
At Sequoia, 44 Stripe always seemed a viable commercial type as it was healthy, extremely floriferous, usually always in flower and created massive heads of startling red and white striped flowers. He felt it more valuable to him as a breeder than to let it out of the nursery. Other than TAMU, the only person I can think of who might have it would be Paul Barden. The closest I have to it are Kim Rupert and an unnamed, lightly prickled, semi climbing striped plant which came to me without any identification.
Natalie,
TX is a big state? The good thing about that is there is a lot of room for roses. No certificate is needed for Nebraska. Would you be able to send me a rooted cutting? I could send you shipping cost and whatever.
Kim,
I wish I could have seen Sequoia when it was still there. A few prickles would not bother me if I could have good seeds. Thanks for the information.