'Minette' - an overlooked rose for frgrance?

Banshee and Minette or both the same? … in my garden and due to 3 limit need to add another post for photo … one clue I told a fib about Banshee blooms being ruined … photos taken tonight zone 3
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second rose
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second picture of second rose in sequence
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The bloom is the Pickering Minette that was re-named Banshee by them in about 2009 or so. It still has blooms late in the season.The two hip photos are from Cornhill’s Minette. Minette completed blooming about 3 weeks ago and unfortunately does not give the appearance of blooming again from new growth. These two roses are about 20 feet apart in the north facing backyard garden.

As fate would have it I never photographic the Minette blooms this year as I was riveted by an old pink HP that bloomed again close by after about 5 year (easy winter and now in drought). The Minette bloom was a different looking bloom to my memory - which can be very faulty - it appeared more ordered compared to Pickering’s “Banshee” . As to the Suomi Minette, I can’t say for certain they are the same looking (seem different blooms) but to me Suomi’s does not look like a mislabelled Banshee.

Did Banshee rebloom or are the blooms on the plant part of a once-blooming summer cycle?

Not re-bloom in my opinion, just new wood off old cane resulting in a bloom - some 4 to 8 inches in length … once blooming in my books. You can see some winter kill and self pruning.First is example and second is whole bush, one has to twist their neck, rotation an iPhone quirk.
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Nice healthy looking leaves

Txs, one of nature’s benefits of this location-not much black spot pressure (have/had 3 roses that go it including classic Sd’Or) but as season goes on powdery mildew starts. I have a photo taken this year I found last night that sure looks like the Minette bloom but due to a lack of geographical garden markers and no picture title I can’ confirm it as from my Minette. Good luck because I encourage hybridized to put the fragrance back in roses as the status quo before people lose interest in the plant … That’s why I believe the rose became famous a.k.a is there not a famous portrait of some mad Roman Caesar drowning his dinner guest in rose petals … Got to be careful with that fragrance of the gods as it can choke you :slight_smile:

As I expected, good results crossing ‘Minette’ with ‘Hansa’ and the reverse. However, ‘Minette’ needs a cold hardy (Zone 2) species or near species injection to toughen the progeny up for growing in a Zone 3 climate. Using Spinosissimas would perhaps result in selections comparable in appearance and cold hardiness to ‘Stanwell Perpetual’ and that’s not a bad thing. But for something new in appearance and performance, I think my priority will be using Rosa acicularis, a neglected species for the development of cold hardy (Zone 3) roses.