Grouse and Immensee

As I was looking in Modern Roses and trying to understand these roses, it seemed confusing to me if they were the same or different. The names seem to be interchangable in some pedigrees. They have the same parents and were released the same year. One supposed to be a little more pinkish white maybe from the descriptions, but they sure sound close. It seems a bit strange for Kordes to want to release two almost identical roses the same year.

I would love to know. These seem to be really important parents of many of many great disease resistant roses coming out these days either directly or a generation or two in their backgrounds.



Pierre is dead on regarding those two. However, even some of their hybrids lag a little in their initial bloom, but once they get going they dont seem to stop.