Open Pollinated means that the pollen parent is not known. Bees, wind could had pollinated with another rose, or it pollinated itself.
Here are most of what I consider to be my interesting seedlings.
Rugelda x Ferdinand Pichard x Heidi
Rugelda x Ferd Pichard x Gold Medal
Rugelda x Lemon Delight
Rugelda x Marbree ,thanks Paul B.
Calocarpa x r. nutkana
OP seeds from Orangeade x 77-361
OP seeds from Anne Harkness x 77-361
Bayse’s Amphidiploid seedling x mixed Ferd Pichard and Rugelda pollens.
Tropicana x Snowfire x Marbree
Tropicana x Ferd Pichard X Rugelda
MF2 x Dornroschen
MF2 X Hazeldean ,thanks to Paul O.
Rugosa #3 x Westerland ,thanks Joan M.
Rugosa #3 OP
F2 seedling from repeat blooming Prairie Wren
Shadow Dancer OP x Ferd Pichard x Gold Medal
Hansa x r. roxburghii thanks Lydia
Rugelda Is a yellow blend rugosa hybrid.
Ferdinand Pichard is a striped hbrid perpetual.
Heidi is a nice pink larger mini moss.
Gold Medal is a yellow hybrid tea.
Lemon Delight is a yellow mini moss.
Marbree is a spotted Portland rose. I got pollen from Paul Barden.
Calocarpa is a rugosa/chinensis hybrid.
77-361 is a thornless tetraploid from Dr. Bayse.
Bayse’s Amphidiploid is a tetraploid rugosa/absynnica.
Tropicana is a red/orange hybrid tea.
Snowfire is a red with white reverse hybrid tea.
Dornroschen is a pink shrub with acicularus ancestry.
Westerland is an apricot climber ?
Hazeldean is a spinnossisima hybrid. I got pollen from Paul Olsen.
Rugosa #3 is a probable tetraploid rugosa from Joan Monteith.
Shadow Dancer is a striped climber with kordesii ancestry.
Prairie Wren is a pink Canadian rose. This is a seedling from a seedling of it.F3
Hansa is a rugosa hybrid of unknown parentage. A seed machine!
As you can see, Nothing is sacred with me. I’ll cross anything with anything if I think it might produce disease resistant or winter hardy seedlings.
Randy
Jim,
I finally figured it out! It wasn’t the copy/paste that prevented me from “previewing”, It was the size of my message!
First, I tried removing all the parenthesies thinking it was confusing the program.(now it’s confusing to the readers, without them) But only after I cut my message in half did the “Preview” button work!
I’m so proud!
Randy
Randy, I’m glad you figured out the pasting problem. I didn’t know there was a size limit. The limit probably depends on your browser.
Some more first germinations this week:
Duet x Pascali
Gold Medal x Arthur Bell
Gold Medal x Coral Dawn
Lilac Charm x Ferdinand Pichard
Playboy x Rainbow’s End
Sunsprite x Armada
Hi Jim,
I’m glad to see someone else using Ferd Pichard in breeding too. I have used it for about three years now and found it to be a pretty good parent both ways. It’s major weaknesses are that most of the seedlings don’t bloom their first year, and I have found the leaves on a small percentage to be somewhat mis-shapen. Not unhealthy but asymetrical and kind of odd looking.
Seedlings inherit stripes to some degree in about a third to a half of them. Doubleness and disease resistance are pretty good for most of them.
Did you know that nearly all of the modern striped roses trace back to Ferd through early breeding by Ralph Moore? It would be interesting to see how other old striped roses would differ in new seedlings.
Pristine x Iceberg
New Dawn x Pristine
White Dawn x Pollen Mix #2
Gloire de Dijon x Mix #1(a single seedling)
Bayse’s Blueberry x Pollen Mix #2
Robin Hood OP (thanks Jim T.)
Knock Out x Pearl Drift
Lilac Charm x Pearl Drift
Lilac Charm OP
Knock Out x Lilac Charm
Lafter x Pollen Mix #2
Westerland x Pollen Mix #5
and a PILE of now pot luck seedlings and germinated seeds as a result of spilled soda and my pen not being “refrigerator permanent” - includes most of my favorite efforts! Ouch!
Percent germination was fair to average - except for the Pearl Drift stuff, I worked my tail off with Pearl Drift, probably three times as many pollinations as all others combined,
Pearl Drift has such interesting parentage (Mermaid x New Dawn). I’ve never gotten a hip, let alone a seedling, in many attempts using Mermaid as a seed parent. I wonder how many tries it took LeGrice to get Pearl Drift. Did you cross Pearl Drift with diploids or tetraploids, Baxter? It might be a diploid. Mermaid is diploid. New Dawn is triploid and could go either way.
I’ve had over 1200 germinations so far, more than I had all last year. And over half of my seeds are still in the fridge. I’m not going to have room for all the seedlings. I guess I’ll have to be extremely ruthless in throwing out seedlings this year.
A couple first germinations from this season’s crosses:
Coral Dawn X Comte de Chambord
Friendship X Olympiad
and a first germination from one of last season’s crosses:
William Allen Richardson X Just Joey
That last cross is an attempt to breed a better Buff Beauty. Buff Beauty is thought by some to be a noisette (William Allen Richardson) X a hybrid tea. There haven’t been any advances in noisettes since Buff Beauty was bred, but there have been big advances in hybrid teas. So I’m trying to breed a better Buff Beauty by crossing William Allen Richardson with a better hybrid tea.
No successful hips set on Pearl Drift as pistillate parent although, several OP hiplets appeared to be on the way until a hard freeze got 'em - gives me a little hope for trying again.
Pearl Drift easily releases a lot of pollen for me - tried it on all types, only luck with KnockOut and Lilac Charm, both tetras, that plus physical characteristics make me think that Pearl Drift is a partially fertile triploid producing doubled pollen. Also, used PD in Pollen Mix #2 as the only white along with a red and a yellow - so I may have some “suspects” if I am lucky.
Last fall I harvested 5 hips from the cross Rugosa #3 (probable tetraploid) x mixed tetraploid pollen. The seeds started germinating about a week ago, and so far I have planted 35 seedlings! Since this is the first year I had seed from this plant, its nice to see that the seeds germinate well.
I also planted 8 seedlings from a R. altica selection I was sent a few years back. That’s all I want (there are more germinated seeds), and I plan on passing the R. altica seeds along. I’ve got enough to send to 2-4 people. Email me if you are interested.
Joan