Fruhlings family

Some sources say that some of the Fruhlings series will have ‘intermittent’ flower after the main bloom. Can anyone tell me how heavy this latter bloom is. Is it like Rosa spin. altaic where here in the north the bushes are usually caring one or two blooms. Johannes

I have Frühlingsmorgen and Frühlingsduft, Frühlingsmorgen is very early blooming, similar in its timing to Hugonis, with no repeat, Frühlingsduft is comparatively later blooming and has a reasonably long spring flush, with very few occasional blooms afterwards, but I have had them only for 6 years (?) Not sure if well established plants would have more repeats, but I somehow doubt it with the morgen.

I first saw ‘Fruhlingsmorgen’ at the Reinisch Rose Garden in Topeka, KS. There were three very large specimens that did not rebloom, so far as I noticed.

But at the Heritage Rose Garden in San Jose, CA, there was frequent late bloom. This was a smallish specimen, due to frequent pruning to keep within bounds. I have pics of it blooming in March and July.
http://bulbnrose.x10.mx/Roses/Rose_Pictures/F/fruhlingsmorgen.html

And I have seen ‘Frühlingsduft’ blooming in March, October and November.
http://bulbnrose.x10.mx/Roses/Rose_Pictures/F/fruhlingsduft.html

Pruning may be the key to recurrent bloom in this group.
Karl

I have never pruned mine, will try this year:

Karl that is music to my ears. Johannes

In Canada, Edmonton we get a smattering all summer. I want to breed it to polyanthas J

I mean Altaica not the hybrids with HT thati asked about

Another source of Altaica genes is the excellent ‘Golden Wings’.

Karl

Hi Karl, unfortunately Golden Wings does not make it through the winters but not for lack of trying. It is indeed a gorgeous plant.

Johannes,

In my experience in a Zone 3 climate, while ‘Golden Wings’ winter kills severely, it can be crown hardy and flowers on new wood. Therefore, it’s an underused yellow rose in this climate. However, except perhaps from Hortico, it’s not readily available anymore in Canada.

One published ancestry of ‘Golden Wings’ is Soeur Thérèse x (R. altaica x Ormiston Roy).

If this is correct, some of its self-seedlings might turn out to be hardier than GW itself. Whether any of them would also be yellow and reblooming is another matter.

Karl

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For what it’s worth this seedling was probably Golden Wings pollen on Persian Sunset. It is always tough to know for sure whether a seedling is actually a hybrid but, since the blotch inherits in a dominant fashion and this lacked the blotch, I think it might have been. It also happened to be thornless which Golden Wings nearly was. No lesson here but it might support a strategy of using spin derivatives against Golden Wings.