Florist rose hips?

Hi everyone,

I’m on a brief trip abroad and was in a market when I noticed a florist was selling rose hips as an accent for fall bouquets. I didn’t know that was a thing.

I asked what kind of rose it was but they didn’t know. I bought some out of curiosity. I will bring them back home and try to germinate the seeds as a souvenir.

I realize there isn’t much to go on here, especially since there aren’t many leaves left on them, but I’d be grateful if anyone here might be able to give me a clue as to a broad category they belong to.
The stems are mostly thornless but not completely, and the remaining leaves appear to have five leaflets.
I guess I can rule out rugosa, as well as anything with black, prickly or elongated hips, but no idea beyond that. The walls of the hips are rather thin and the many seeds inside are very tiny.
Any ideas?

Here are some pics:




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Yup, hips, seeds and seed pods of all types, all kinds of foliage and “novelty” malformed blooms, all of it is fodder for florist work. The more outrageous and unusual the better.

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I suspect it is a North American Cinnamomeae section rose (once considered section Carolinae; maybe R. carolina or R. palustris, etc.). Those big attached stipules and sepalless round and relatively softer looking hips than Synstylae section roses point me that direction. I think R. setigera ‘Serena’ (the thornless female selection) would make a great cut hip crop too with thornless stems and thinner walled hips that should dry and last pretty good.

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The Dutch horticulture company De Ruiter owns many commercial cultivars specific for rose hips as cut flowers. Your bouquet is likely one of them.
Rose Hips Archieven - De Ruiter

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You can also use the stems as scions to get some clones and see what’s their flowers look like.

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Thank you so much @Mingwei , that is really great information! Yes, I’ll try rooting them too but I don’t expect much success. I heard that florist roses are sprayed with some kind of anti-rooting chemical. Also, I am just really bad at rooting roses in general. But I’ll try!

The DeRuiter website mentions that most of the Hiphop series are “Rosa Hybrid × Mariae Graebneriae”, which is itself Rosa Carolina × Rosa Humilis Lucida.
So this means that @davidzlesak your suspicions were spot on! Thank you!

That’s very cool; I’ve been interested in trying Mariae Graebneriae’s offspring Bokrahan aka “Rote Hannover” for a while, but never got around to ordering it, so growing these related seeds seems like a fun, random way to go in that direction.

@roseseek I was amazed at how many unexpected things were available at the florists. By contrast in Malta the florists offerings tend to be very traditional, so this was a surprise!

Thank you all so much for your comments and help!

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