I’m on a brief trip abroad and was in a market when I noticed a florist was selling rose hips as an accent for fall bouquets. I didn’t know that was a thing.
I asked what kind of rose it was but they didn’t know. I bought some out of curiosity. I will bring them back home and try to germinate the seeds as a souvenir.
I realize there isn’t much to go on here, especially since there aren’t many leaves left on them, but I’d be grateful if anyone here might be able to give me a clue as to a broad category they belong to.
The stems are mostly thornless but not completely, and the remaining leaves appear to have five leaflets.
I guess I can rule out rugosa, as well as anything with black, prickly or elongated hips, but no idea beyond that. The walls of the hips are rather thin and the many seeds inside are very tiny.
Any ideas?
Yup, hips, seeds and seed pods of all types, all kinds of foliage and “novelty” malformed blooms, all of it is fodder for florist work. The more outrageous and unusual the better.
I suspect it is a North American Cinnamomeae section rose (once considered section Carolinae; maybe R. carolina or R. palustris, etc.). Those big attached stipules and sepalless round and relatively softer looking hips than Synstylae section roses point me that direction. I think R. setigera ‘Serena’ (the thornless female selection) would make a great cut hip crop too with thornless stems and thinner walled hips that should dry and last pretty good.
The Dutch horticulture company De Ruiter owns many commercial cultivars specific for rose hips as cut flowers. Your bouquet is likely one of them. Rose Hips Archieven - De Ruiter
Thank you so much @Mingwei , that is really great information! Yes, I’ll try rooting them too but I don’t expect much success. I heard that florist roses are sprayed with some kind of anti-rooting chemical. Also, I am just really bad at rooting roses in general. But I’ll try!
The DeRuiter website mentions that most of the Hiphop series are “Rosa Hybrid × Mariae Graebneriae”, which is itself Rosa Carolina × Rosa Humilis Lucida.
So this means that @davidzlesak your suspicions were spot on! Thank you!
That’s very cool; I’ve been interested in trying Mariae Graebneriae’s offspring Bokrahan aka “Rote Hannover” for a while, but never got around to ordering it, so growing these related seeds seems like a fun, random way to go in that direction.
@roseseek I was amazed at how many unexpected things were available at the florists. By contrast in Malta the florists offerings tend to be very traditional, so this was a surprise!
The seeds have been sitting in the fridge since November. Yesterday I noticed something green in the container and opened it… They’re all popping up!
I didn’t expect such good germination from these. It’s a nice surprise.
HMF says Maria Graebneria (aka Rosa Carolina × Rosa Humilis Lucida) has “occasional repeat”. Does this mean there’s any chance of juvenile bloom with these?
Unfortunately, I doubt that such a background would give you any juvenile flowering, even if there happens to be some sporadic later bloom once the seedlings mature.
Thanks so much for your reply @MidAtlas !
In that case I guess I can just cull for vigor and health even earlier and more drastically. Very helpful, thanks again!
Hello @SeasideRooftop, while passing by a nearby florist, I discovered some DeRuiter Hiphop® Cut Hiproses. This one is one of their orange versions. Of course, I remembered your post from 2024. In this context, I would like to ask if you already achieved anything special from your Hiphops? Many thanks!
Germination was very good but a few months later that whole section of my indoor area suffered a spidermite invasion, leaving only few survivors. I culled for vigor and only kept one seedling. It hasn’t bloomed yet, but doing well.
The seedling is very very prickly, almost like a rugosa, which surprised me since the mother was quite low thorn. I’ll add a picture here tomorrow to illustrate. I’m mainly keeping it around as a souvenir from that trip, but I’m guessing it’s going to be a once-bloomer. Maybe it will give me a flower next spring?
Hello SeasideRooftop, thank you for your kind feedback! I am glad to hear that you obtained an interesting seedling. The numerous spines are indeed remarkable. The leaves also appear to me somewhat duller.
Incidentally, I have noticed in my area, that both, R. carolina and R. virginiana in the wild (to the extent that they can be determined), sometimes produce in september a late bloom, which means that neither of them has a true dormance. Flowering is regulated by the interaction of photoperiod and temperature and flower induction occurs within a certain permissible temperature range.
It is therefore quite possible that your Hiphop-seedling will also develop late flowering behavior under special conditions. Possibly it will not be visible in its first flowering year, but later on. In any case, it’s exciting to observe.
My Hiphops will be sown at the beginning of the next year. I am curious about the potential germinations and will report.
I have a ‘Jams-a-licious’ (‘Spekjam’) rose, another carolina-liked hip rose. Dense needle-liked prickles present on base of its canes like shown in the photo, but on middle and upper of the stem, the prickles are paired and hook shaped. Definitely not “almost thornless” in RHS description.
