Getting ready to register a rose for the first time with the ARS. I got the proper form, and I have questions.
Registration name and AEN - Does one of those include my breeder code ?
Year introduced would be now, or the year it germinated?
Thank you, experts!
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I’ve only registered one rose in the past thirty years and that was only because the person for whom it was named requested it. Per the registration screen, the AEN is the “Exhibition Name”, what it would be called in a rose exhibition. Your breeder code would be one of the I’d think your Breeder Code should be the registration name as that would follow the variety from country to country (should you and it be so lucky) while synonyms and AEN would be specific to the country in which it is being grown. “Introduction” would be when the rose was first put on the market for sale, so date of introduction would be when a seller first put it out for sale. If it hasn’t been put on the market for sale, that would remain blank.
Of course, I could be mistaken and if I am, I welcome correction.
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Thanks! Naming one for my late mother. It reminds me of her when she was young. She taught me how to steal seeds from everywhere, even though she was scrupulously honest about everything else in life.
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Our moms seem related! LOL! My sisters and I used to kid her we couldn’t take her anywhere. MANY things ended up in the yard due to purloined seeds and MANY trades.
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Registration is underway! Once it’s official, I’m looking to see how to add it to HMF.
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That’s easy @Heather_Horning. You can email the Help Desk at roses@helpmefind.com and apply for security permission to add things to the database, or if you’d like, I can email you (or even post here, if you prefer) the data entry screens so you can see what can be entered using the tick boxes. I enter the information for Girija Viraraghavan for Viru’s roses. She sends me the information in bullet form using those screens and any text she wishes added to the Breeder’s Comments. She usually sends me the photos she wishes uploaded, which I then add, reducing the load she has to deal with. #84 shows actual selections made as there has been modifications to allow for varying degrees of prickles, so I had to grab that screen from a rose page entry so you could see the current possibilities. I hope it helps!
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Wow, thanks! Moving forward…
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You’re welcome! Good luck! You don’t have to wait for registration to put it up, but you may if you wish. Registration isn’t like patenting where prior publication prevents it.
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Hi heather! Congrats on a new rose. 
In the rose world a rose is really only known by its Code Name which is your unique breeder code and a name you call it. This is mostly for those roses sold in commerce under different names, but the code name doesn’t change. Helps with patents. The date you choose is up to you. As Kim suggested it is often the year of introduction, year it was patented, or in my case, the year it germinated. In the long run it isn’t that important, other to figure out what rose is which under the same name. Rose names are often re-used by the hybridizer. Do you have a hybridizer code yet?
Steve Jones
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Thanks, Steve!
Yes, I’m HHM, and I used it in the registration name.
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From the registration guru.
Bruce Monroe: As nearly as I can tell, I am in charge of breeders’ codes. However, a breeder’s code is not necessary to register a rose. Just make the registration name and the exhibition name the same. A registration name with a breeder’s code is useful for (1) a rose variety that is going to be sold under different commercial names in different parts of the world and/or (2) a rose variety whose exhibition name (commercial name) is going to be trademarked because a generic name is required for a trademark registration (ie Knockout, Radrazz; Graham Thomas, Ausmas).
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A very beautiful ,gentle rose with its own story.
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