This is a really, really weird trait in roses. Some of Moore’s crested roses are bizarre creatures. However, it might be fun exploring one day. Which parents are the best in passing down cresting? Once-blooming is fine. Has Crested Damask been slightly more fertile to anyone recently? This might be a case where OGRs come into play, their “century-old modern technology” might be more compatible with the cresting, which might lead to less icky inbreeding! Maybe!

Has anyone tried Bayse Blueberry/ Legacy x Crested Moss?

Also, imagine how cool crested rugosas will be… They may not thrive on the west coast, but they flourish to the point of invasiveness in these parts. Rugosa blood might toughen them up…

(Apparently, invasiveness is not a word :stuck_out_tongue: )

He originally mined the cresting from Crested Moss. Little Darling and Queen Elizabeth, two of his favored “go to” seed parents for difficult pollen, produced some of the best results. Sarabande, Pinocchio and Orangeade also resulted in some dramatic results, but only Little Darling produced anything commercially viable. It’s the seed parent of both Crested Jewel and Crested Sweetheart. Crested Jewel is the fertile one which has led to further results, all of which is documented on their rose pages. Unfortunately, even after working on them for four decades, he wasn’t able to break through their black spot issues and their rangy, semi-climbing awkward growth inherited from both of the initial parents, Little Darling and Crested Moss. There have been other, more modern roses which have been found to pass along the cresting while improving foliage, but not the growth habit quite yet. That part is a hit and miss proposition and definitely where others will discover much more trying a wider variety of roses. As we’ve previously discussed here, Mr. Moore maintained his favored “harem” and was mostly loathe to add anything new, even when shown how beneficial something might be toward his goals. He didn’t explore cresting with Rugosa, but he did pursue mossed Rugosas. Unfortunately, adding the mossing to them virtually eliminated their disease resistance. Putting stripes on them nearly destroyed them, but at least he accomplished that fairly well…in the right climates.

Paul Barden threw down the towel on cresteds for a reason lol. Z
However, he did not explore everything. He did not grow any seeings out of Crested damask except by Jewel as far as I can tell. Nor did he use queencrest, as it was too sick where he lived. Perhaps Queencrest can make marginally superior crests if paired well. Crested damask, if not inbred might too. Putting these on the fedtschs and Basyes Blueberry / Legacy might field something of worth. The 2 crested roses are beautiful, but queencrest is sick as a dog. The damask sets seeds, but it is hard to grow them out.

There are so many projects you can do with the rose.