I have a rose that is seems to be completely Rosa beggeriana. The issue is hip colour; the illustrations and discriptions are black. Mine has orange hips. Do I have a mislabel plant?
johannes
Journal of the Royal Horticultural Society 27: 482-492 (1902/3)
SOME WILD ASIATIC ROSES
Maurice L. de Vilmorin, F.R.H.S.
The Beggeriana, a native of Persia and Turkestan, is not commended by its size, and still less by the odour (a decidedly bad one) of its flower. The undue spreading of its bush is obviated by grafting it on the stock of the Dog Rose. The plant will then bloom from July to the cold days of October. The small, round, red fruit early drops the remains of the calyx, and its appearance gains thereby. The black-fruited variety is curious.
Johannes,
Perhaps the rose hips aren’t ripe it.
From the article that Karl posted - “The black-fruited variety is curious.”
No it’s not. It’s typical of this species.
Paul letting them ripen any more makes no difference. They stay reddish.
There appears to be more than a little confusion as to the “type” of Rosa beggeriana.
http://rosebreeders.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54897&p=60285&hilit=beggeriana#p60285
As for the color of the hips, I’ve seen pictures of specimens with red hips, and others with black hips. I have not seen any of these in person, and cannot say which form is typical.
Red hips:
Шиповник Беггера (Роза Беггера, …)
http://www.plantarium.ru/page/image/id/8460.html
Rosa beggeriana Schrenk var. glabrata Christ
http://schneiderhein.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_archive.html
There are also differences in the form of the prickles:
Hooked
http://innature.kz/photogallery.php?photo_id=7702
Straight
http://www.asianflora.com/Rosaceae/Rosa-beggeriana.htm
Johannes,
What is the source of your plant? Do you have a photo of it?
Hi Paul, I got it locally where I am not sure. johannes