Trying to search the forum for information on the rose ‘America’ was a test of my patience. lol
Its vigour, persistence and sporting ability seem rather amazing for a shrub/climber bred from two HTs. Has anyone grown it, Pearly Gates, & Royal America together? Some say RA has a differently-shaped flower, but I’m more interested in their comparative health and habit.
I’ll be trying to get hips on Pearly Gates this year, as I just rec’d RA yesterday by FedEx, and I don’t grow the original because its colour irritates me a LOT. Lol
There are several tall, healthy “America” in a local park here in northern Colorado. I’ve RARELY seen hips on them. (I didn’t answer your main question.)
Did you have any luck with this?
I didn’t plan on working with my Pearly Gates at all, but this morning I felt the itch to do some pollinations and it was my only rose with viable blooms. So I figured I’d give it a shot. I’ve got mine planted in too much shade as part of a longer term archway project and it has still proven to be incredibly vigorous and floriferous. On its own roots, no less.
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None so far. ‘Pearly Gates’ (grafted) has been moved into larger pot, in the hope that the legendary vigour will appear. ‘Royal America’ turned out to be a mislabelled ‘New Dawn’, so it was redundant and now graces the back fence of a friend w sketchy neighbours. lol
Unrelated, but I am getting satisfactory germination from ol’ ‘New Dawn’ OP seed this year; perhaps I shall look to some deliberate shenanigans with ND this season.
Maybe ‘Pearly Gates’ pollen should besmear a few blossoms of ‘New Dawn’.
That makes sense. I could only find one instance of it being used as a seed parent on HMF. My hope is that the excess shade might make it a little more willing to produce hips, but I’d say that’s just wishful thinking. It’s going to be a high of 96 today so my expectations are well managed.
Coincidentally, I planted a New Dawn rose along the fenceline of my inconsiderate neighbors too.
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The demand for Blood Sacrifice from ‘New Dawn’ is real, and those grabby-thorns are a good feature in certain contexts.
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