Chemical doubling of ploidy, and speculation...

I don’t fully understand the mechanisms behind such of course, but wonder why this process must be undertaken at the seedling/cotyledon stage?

I wondered if anyone knows if doubling the ploidy for existing cultivars might be possible in vitro, for instance during some stage of micropropagation? Perhaps by applying trifluralin,when shoots first emerge from a callused mass, for instance? (And then rinsing the heck out of the mass, and replanting in new media, I suppose…)

It would be nice to be able to double the genes of a known phenotype/breeder as opposed to an unknown seedling.

Phil, as you were asking about this (why this process must be undertaken at the seedling/cotyledon stage) it allows enough area for the chemical to be absorbed into the tissue of the plant and if it become larger and creates side buds there is a chance they will not be treated therefore giving a variation within the seedling. Doubling chromosomes in micropropagation has been done for a long time, the overall tissue callus is treated so you do not have to wait for the shoots. Anther propagation has also been used for a long period of time.

This technique of Chemical doubling is very good for producing fertile tetraploids from noncompatible diploid species crosses and various diploid cultivar types which have evolved from different species types. It duplicates these genes which were derived from the cross eg (AB) to (AABB) these pair up becoming very very happy.

" Anther propagation has also been used for a long period of time."

H.Kuska comment. What is "anther propagation?

I spent a lot of time trying “anther culture” (trying to change tetraploids to diploids). I got as far (callus stage) as anything published at that time. I am not aware of anyone being successful with roses. This what I posted at that time:

Anther Culture Of Roses

Anther culture is a sub area of tissue culture in which one removes the pollen carrying anthers from the unopened flower and places them on tissue culture medium. The individual pollen grains form a callus and then a new plant with half the chromosome number of the parent. I have been attempting anther culture of commercial greenhouse roses (which are tetraploid) with the goal of producing diploid hybrid teas. They would then be crossed with diploid species roses to produce fertile offspring from which one would then select for plants with the flower form of the hybrid teas and disease resistance and winter hardiness of the species.

The following is the summary of the most recent literature paper that I could find on the topic: V. Wissemann, C. Mollers, and F.H. Hellwig, “Microspore and Anther Culture in the Genus Rosa, Investigations and Current Status”, Angew. Bot. 70, 218-2220(1966). “Within the Rosaceae, only very few results of haploid culture are reported. Successful haploid callus formation in Rosa was only mentioned once but unfortunately could never be repeated. Actually no publication is available on the current status of haploid culture in Rosa. In this paper we present recipes used in our research on the origin and evolution of the genomes in the genus Rosa. Published for the first time, microspore culture of isolated microspores clearly shows response to in vitro culture with first divisions in the cells. Anther culture produced calli with at least some of them of partial haploid origin. Both methods can not be said to be established, but results presented here show some direction of further research.” They were not successful in regenerating plants with half the chromosome number from the calli.

Simultaneously with the above workers, I have been trying a number of formulations. One that appears to give acceptable positive callus results (reproducible in five batches) is based on a published formulation for Strawberry anther culture - H.R. Owen and A.R. Miller, Plant Cell Reports,15,905-909,(1966). My version uses (amounts for 20 ml sample) 0.08 g standard MS plus vitamins, 0.01 g L-glutamine, 0.70 g glucose, 0.08 g MES(buffer), 0.10 g gellan gum, 0.01 g Ca ascorbate, 0.0001 g AgNO3, 0.02 g PPM(preservative), 0.00004 g IAA, and 0.00002 g BA. The samples are kept in the dark for 30 days then put under continuous florescent light. I use a 700 watt microwave oven to sterilize (5 minutes with 20 ml sample in center surrounded by 4 containers of water which act as heat sinks). I have a balance which is sensitive to 0.01 g. I used solution dilutions and insulin syringes for the smaller quantities. Small amounts of both DMSO and propylene glycol have worked as solvents to dissolve the organic hormones.

I used as my “Laminar Flow Hood” a commercial HEPA air purifier (retail about $60.00, I paid about $32.00 on sale - Holmes HAP-240) which was mounted in a cut-out in a clear plastic clothing storage container which was set on its side. For pictures of my setup click here.

In two recent - very successful - batches I modified the hormone composition to the following: 0.00002 g IAA, 0.00002 g NAA, 0.00001 g BA, and 0.00002 g 2-4 D.

The above solutions have worked to produce the calli. So far I have not been successful in regenerating plants from the calli. I would be interested in any pre-prints or “personal communications” concerning suggestions as to a procedure to try for the plant regeneration phase. In addition to trying a number of published hormone procedures that worked for other plants, I have also tried a hormone free solution.

In bearded Iris to reduce a tetraploid to a diploid is:

(Tall bearded (Teraploid, AAAA) x Iris pseudapumila(diploid,BB) x miniature tall bearded (diploid,AA)

(AAAA X BB)=(AAB) x (AA)= a mostly diploid plant. It may still have some pseudapumila chromosomes lingering around making it a "aneuploid’

I don’t know if this is possible to get this in roses.

Johannes

E R Sears dId it in1956 in His paper on rye rust.

Hey, you guys are taking my thread in the opposite direction! :wink:

But since you’ve gone there, how do the chromosomes in a gamete end up pairing up, when doing anther propagation? And isn’t it also a crap shoot as to which set of genes you will be working with?

Part of my point in doubling with a known cultivar is that you already know the genetics of your new tetraploid, no?

Phil I answered your question earlier on.

Warren, the question in my prior post pertained to dihaploids, to which this thread got redirected. I see that Pierre has now addressed it in another post.
Thanks.

On the subject of the original topic, in vitro doubling of chromosomes, this might be interesting reading for some:

And another:

Oryzalin seems to be the preferred chemical for in vitro doubling. Does it work with seedlings as well?
(I hadn’t realized the extent to which herbicides are used for doubling of chromosomes.)

DMSO wil also help the the chemical penetrate thicker tissue, dangerous tho.

My "lazy mans’ method to double the chromosomes of diploid or triploid roses

I put a small amount of the weed killer, Preem (the active ingredient is trifluralin) in a small amount of liquid DMSO. The liquid turns a light yellow and there will be some undissolved solid. I filter the solution using a very fine mesh sieve. I then take a small amount of that solution and add it to more liquid DMSO. I continued these dilutions until I have a very light yellow solution remaining. I then add a small amount of this diluted solution to some DMSO “gel” that I picked up at a farm supply store (a ratio of about 1 part diluted Preem - DMSO liquid to 50 parts DMSO gel. I then mix the combination until the light yellow color is homogeneous throughout the gel. While I am working I have two pairs of gloves on. An inner rubber latex, and an outer vinyl pair ( DMSO has the property of quickly passing through your skin and bringing along anything that it dissolves from your skin’s surface - such as germs and /or viruses).

In the early spring I use a small brush to apply the gel to the buds of my diploid or triploid hybrid roses such as Agnes, Wasagaming, Will Alderman, the Grootendorsts, Hansa, acicularis, Betty Prior, Hunter, and some of my hybrids. The hope is: if a branch has its chromosomes doubled, it will produce larger leaves and flowers, and hopefully be fertile and form hips by the end of the season. If it works, I may have made an important contribution to the development of hardy disease resistant roses. If not, I have not wasted much time. I used a long sleeve jacket in case I would accidentally brush against a “gelled” bud.


Information about the use of DMSO, trifluralin, and other chemicals to double chromosomes can be found at the following web site:


http://members.tripod.com/~h_syriacus/tetraploidy.htm

I presume that the original plants created would continue to have diploid root systems, no? Once a cutting is taken from the newly developed tetraploid shoot, it would root with a tetraploid root system?

Same for seedlings treated with dinitroanalines? They would have diploid root systems? (Assuming doubling of a diploid…)

One wouldn’t necessarily be able to appreciate all the changes then that might come of doubling until they witnessed any changes to vigor that a double-ploidy root system might provide, I suppose – if I am correct in thinking that such might have such an affect…