I now have a keeper seedling of Basye’s Legacy, thanks to David Z for sending me the seed !!
It must have taken 5 months in the fridge to germinate, and it was the only one of a handful to sprout out of many hundreds of seeds. The other few that did sprout showed no promise or damped off, so this is the only one I have !
Mind…I still have some remaining seed in the fridge, and check it out weekly…lol …
Kim, you are right, these are very very slow to take off… this one must be at least 2 months old (tho I don’t keep dates). It is just starting to show a nice red-burgundy growth, and looks to have developed more decent roots lately, as indicated by a more recent growth spurt.
We are now in winter here, but there is zero chance of frost in my location, so its gonna be ok throughout our usually warm / mild Sydney winter!
Can’t wait to see it as a mature rose !!
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You guys seem not to believe me when I say Legacy seedlings, whether selfs or not, are really pretty terrible. Use it as pollen parent and you can get some pretty remarkable things, but for seed, it pretty well sucks!
Of course I believed you !!
I have no idea what to expect of this one, but I’ve pollinated several of this cross so far. Indian Love Call X Orastarmag.
Both are completely thornless. The seed parent is summer flowering; pollen parent is continuous flowering. The seed parent flowers in small clusters toward the ends of the canes. The pollen parent forms upright canes which break into laterals along their lengths, flowering at the lateral ends, up and down the upright canes.
Good luck with that cross. No doubt some of the babes should be prickerless !! Maybe a few repeaters there…
The only thing I cannot confirm yet is if this BL x OP seedling of mine is smooth… there should be a better than good chance it is smooth, me thinks!
Another sprouted today, this one decided it needed more than 6 months of being shuffled between room and fridge temperatures to do its thing !!
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David Mears, you should be getting some germinations from this David Z batch as well by now, I hope.
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I really don’t know why it would take such stratification efforts to get Legacy to germinate. All I ever did with them was throw them on the soil, lightly cover them, keep them watered and they sprouted like grass. No exaggeration.
More seriously,
As you know, since this seed is like tooooootally NOT available here, I have taken extraordinary measures to get every possible germination out of it. This very late germinating seed which required many many months of cold and warmth to germinate is the type of seed that prolly would have never germinated if chucked in soil with no stratification…which is fine if ya have a bucket load of it to chuck around…
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A note: In Oz “chuck” = colloqiualism meaning “to throw” … lol
Chuck is an expression here. It is just usually more rural.
Hey… I also realised… the provenance of this seed is from coooooold Minnesota, so maybe it needed a bit more cold to get some of the more dormant ones to sprout compared to similar seed form a warmer climate?
I don’t think where it came from would make any difference. Germination would be determined by genetics and conditions under which it was being germinated.
Yes, “chuck” here means to toss or throw. I can also be used in place of regurgitation. “I’m going to chuck!”, replacing “hurl”.
Maybe I’ve stuffed up with stratifications, again.
Since all this messing around with stratifications (note I am newly converted from only germinating by embryo cultures and never before used stratification of seed), I am adopting the 2 months warm / 2 months cold / then sow the lot regime relayed to me in another posting…and see where that takes me.
BUT… strangely I find all this to be FUN, still … !!!
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That may work well for many different seeds, but my experience with this one is it isn’t necessary as long as you have periods of chill provided by your climate. Now, if you were germinating old European garden rose seed, perhaps it would require that more extreme stratification?