Now we’re into bareroot season (In the UK at least), what new additions do you have your eye on or are on their way already? I’ve added:
Creme Caramel (FRYnesca)
Airbrush (KORgetcali)
Black Magic (TANkalcig)
Now we’re into bareroot season (In the UK at least), what new additions do you have your eye on or are on their way already? I’ve added:
Creme Caramel (FRYnesca)
Airbrush (KORgetcali)
Black Magic (TANkalcig)
I looked all those up. Airbrush looks floriferous and beautiful.
Baby Schneewittchen
Bienenweide Bernstein
Bring Me Sunshine
Cecile Brunner
Dannahue
Flame Babylon Eyes
Huddersfield Choral Society
Jojo Peach
Marie Pavic
Penelope Lively
Phoenix
Smiling Eyes
Sternenhimmel
Kordes used Phoenix to create some newer hybrids so it works as a seed parent. The oldies (Cecile Brunner and Marie Pavic) work too. For the rest, we’ll see…
Very much looking forward to trying them all out, and having seen some of the offspring from Airbrush up close I’m excited with what I can use it as a pollen parent with!
Great selection - Huddersfield Choral Society is from a favourite breeder of mine, if it’s anything like his others you’re in for a great rose!
Hi @cortex !
Those look really nice! I’d never heard of Airbrush, that’s a wonderful looking rose!
I’m curious what your criteria was for choosing these roses in particular? Beauty? Disease resistance? Was reported fertility or lineage a factor?
My only addition so far this fall has been Atlas, an old Delbard HT I had been hunting for to replace my similar-looking Pascal Sevran (ADAlyakces) which is beautiful but gets way too much dieback and PM. I hope this one will fare better here.
Also arriving in December is Perla de Alcanada, a Dot miniature. Dot roses seem to do well down here, so I am trying to add more of them, although they are getting increasingly hard to find, especially hiw minis.
@RosariumRob, I second the love for HCS, it’s my favorite rose! I have three, two grafted one own root, they’re all perfect. Note for breeding: although it sets lots of hips, germination is very poor… but pollen works great!
Thank you!
It’s strange to define my criteria honestly! Primarily I go purely for looks / form (This usually makes my choices either a high centred / classic hybrid tea shape, a unique colour or striping or a combination of both). You can definitely see this in my HMF garden listing
Reported fertility / lineage is definitely a factor for me, I often use this forum and HMF to make sure there’s at least SOME evidence of fertility as either seed or pollen parent, although I’ll admit this is less important when looking for pollen parents as very roses CAN’T be used in my experience.
Atlas looks like a great rose, I’m looking forward to seeing what you get out of it
I’d like to add a “blue” rose that’s prolifically female-fertile. The closest I have currently is Outta The Blue, which starts magenta and goes very blue, but hasn’t much in the way of form. I like the shape of the plant very much, and its disease resistance is acceptable-to-good. I grew Stainless Steel in my ex’s garden but it was left behind when we split. The flowers and scent were stunning, as was its health, but the plant itself was awful: giant flowers on rebar-straight stems, no grace whatsoever.
Does anyone have a suggestion for me?
I’d love to get my hands on Stainless Steel but no luck finding any here in the UK as of yet - If anyone has a source please let me know!
In terms of recommendations, I haven’t experience with it myself but I’ve heard good things about “Twice in a Blue Moon” in terms of seed fertility and it looks to have good form.
Doesn’t seem to be available on this side of the Atlantic, sadly.
I’ve been using Blue Bijou (Bayou/Bajou/etc) it’s an every flower goes to hip kind (health only so so and shrub itself nothing to write home about but is distinctly bluer that most) but HMF doesn’t list anyone selling it in the US…could probably use it’s seedling Plum Perfect, not blue as such but fertile and does give seedlings in that colour range.
Blue Bayou made the rounds in the US several years ago. For me, it had NO resistance to any fungal issues. The color was “meh” and plant even less inspiring. I enjoyed chopping it up to go become mulch.
No words were minced that day.
Would Ebb Tide be “blue” enough for you? It’s pretty fertile both ways, as I recall (I haven’t grown it for a number of years, since it died from a likely vole attack).
The desire heartens back to a ‘Blue Girl’ planted in 1984, which inevitably died in my Z2 hometown… I have Tuscany and Night Owl covering the purples, but I’d like a healthy lavender-blue. How good have they gotten?
The only two reasonably healthy lavender roses I’ve grown here are Poseidon and Le Petite Prince. The former never really wanted to grow or bloom and was eventually shown the door, while the latter grew vigorously into a massive plant and had copious, enormous flowers, but it turned out to be a favored host for Rose Rosette Virus. I don’t know if either is female-fertile; possibly not. Breeding lavender roses can supposedly be tricky, and Lagerfeld has been said to be one of the more reliable on that front (and is seed fertile), but it might not have as much disease resistance as you are hoping for.
As I said health only so so and shrub itself nothing to write home about
I disagree with the colour though. Stainless Steel is around 65s, Neptune and Tangles are around the 75s, Novalis has a lot of pigment in the 77s, Quicksilver in the 78’s etc. Kordes mini My LIttle Angel potentially leans bluer (than Blue Bajou) but it’s refused to ever set hips (and currently covered in powdery mildew). Man of Steel is similar (but less pigment) but that thing has even worse health that Blue Bajou, doesn’t hold any foliage without intervention… All options less than ideal. Blue Bajou at least sets seed easily.
Blue Bajou (3+ day old bloom, 30 min apart hence shade/light switch, nothing new unfortunately) is somewhere around 84s/85s, when there’s a new bloom I’ll take more pictures I think it’s an 85c that shifts to 84d with age
I think only Bucks Blue Skies is described in its patent to lean bluer at 91C but you’ve described it as hemophiliac so probably not great either
I’ve already ordered a few:
Peace [late to the game, I know]
Ash Wednesday
Mme. Alfred Carriere
Perle d’Or
Mister Lincoln
But my to buy list is still pretty long. Mostly waiting until January when most of the suppliers will be restocked:
Earth Angel
Koko Loko
Princess Charlene de Monaco
Sugar Moon
Bolero
AUSsaucer
AUSjo
Stephan Rulo
Honey Dijon
Mme Isaac Pereire
Souvenir de la Malmaison
Reve d’Or
Oklahoma
Distant Drums
Crepuscule
Connie’s Sandstorm
Butterscotch
Alister Stella Grey
Free and Loyal
Madame Anisette
Crown Princess Margareta
Francis Meilland
AUSmit
Holy FLASHBACKS, Batman.
It was Sugar Moon that was “giant flowers on rebar-straight stems”, not Stainless Steel!
Both were left behind at the ex’s (along with Violacea, 2x Westerland, Autumn Sunset, and Sunsprite/Korresia) among others, in a beautifully planted yard. Which I’m sure they’ve destroyed by now. Le sigh.
Stainless Steel was a decent plant, with perfectly shaped blossoms of what I described as “a creepy blend of lavender, beige, grey and white”. It wasn’t my favourite, and hardly deserving being lumped with the “blue” roses, but it did show more blueish colour under artificial light.
Maybe I should get another and see if it’s grown on me yet…?
Haha. Good to know that Sugar Moon is an ugly plant!!! I’ve been so torn on getting stainless steel. I ordered Ash Wednesday which seems to have a similar color (from your description at least). I’m planning on growing for cutting as well as hybridizing, so rebar straight stems will work pretty well for that aspect. I really dislike the HT form and would love to see more interesting colored flowers in a fuller form.