One of my biggest surprises is this seedling from an OP hip of a Barbier rambler that HMF helped me ID as ‘François Juranville’. I was surprised to see juvenile bloom, and then even more surprised when it shot out several new basal growths with buds at the tips! First blossom was a blowsy, pale, peach-pink swirl of maybe 15-20 petals. Second showed up deeper in colour (it’s not a stretch to say orangish), and rather cupped at first.
At what point do we start playing favourites, and if now, what can I do to avoid jinxing it?
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Fertile ramblers that have remontant parents can certainly produce everblooming, even dwarf shrubs.
If you like it enough, you could try propagating it as soon as it has enough material for a cutting or two. It should root very easily with that background.
Stefan
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A couple blocks away from my place is a lovely old house with this rather orange, loosely-double, once-blooming rose that I’m sure is from the Barbier family of lucieae-ramblers. I haven’t got a firm ID for it, but I figured I’d grab a few hips and see what comes from it. Pretty sure it’s the only rose in the yard, so chances are they are selfings.
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I’m curious why you’re convinced it’s a Barbier rambler. There were other hybridizers working with the luciae/wichurana family, several of them here in the US, which is much closer to your location than Barbier in France. What about it convinces you it’s from Barbier?
Mark
For one, the research I did to ID the rambler I bought as ‘Leontine Gervais’. HMF makes clear the mess of misidentification around the handful of peachy-orange ramblers from Barbier:
My rose flowers are 8-10cm in diameter, so must be ‘François Juranville’, and certainly matches well with the description and photos.
Secondly, Vancouver Island’s climate is distinctly Mediterranean, a number of Barbier ramblers are readily available here, and they do beautifully. Many even keep some green foliage right through our wet winters.
Lastly, the ones bred on the east coast of the United States are simply not as common here, and those of orange-tints are exceedingly rare to begin with.
My best guess at this point is that it is ‘Auguste Gervais’.
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