See:
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:xujdHaW1n-YJ:www.ogtr.gov.au/rtf/ir/biologyrose1.rtf+roses+"hip+set"&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6
Link: 72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:xujdHaW1n-YJ:www.ogtr.gov.au/rtf/ir/biologyrose1.rtf+roses+%22hip+set%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6
Henry… Very interesting reading… enjoyed it… Thanks