Anomalias em cinórrodos de roseira

Alguém poderia me dizer quais os fatores que causam essas anomalias em cinórrodos de roseira?

Se puderem indicar artigos, desde já agradeço!

Obs: essas fotos pertencem a outras pessoas.

Google translated the questions as:

Could anyone tell me what factors cause these anomalies in rose bush cinronhodes?

If you can indicate articles, thank you!

Note: these photos belong to other people.

Welcome Gustavo! What you’re picturing is called “exogenous seeds”. Google explains it thusly:

Exogenous seeds in roses, appearing as red seeds exposed on top of the hip, are

often caused by the hip “bursting at the seams” due to overcrowding, frequently in open-pollinated or, rarely, damaged hips, and are sometimes exacerbated by sun scald

. This phenomenon is generally seen as a developmental quirk where the seed production exceeds the capacity of the container, rather than a disease.

Key Causes for Exogenous Rose Seeds

  • Overcrowded Hips: The primary cause is when the rose hip produces too many seeds, forcing them to emerge from the top of the fruit.

  • Open Pollination: This often happens with open-pollinated, rather than controlled cross-pollination.

  • Environmental Factors: Sun scald may cause the exposed seeds to turn red.

Context for “Exogenous” in Rose Context

  • Definition: In this specific context, it means “outside” of the seed pod (hip).

  • Occurrence: It is common in various roses, especially in late-season hips, and often involves multiple seeds that are visible outside the fruit.

  • What to do: These seeds are often still viable and can be used for planting

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I would never have guessed that. Wow, I love this site!

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Great! I’m glad you are enjoying it! There is a tremendous amount of really great information and knowledge here.

(Presumo que você tenha os meios para traduzir de volta para o português.)

Did you use a lot of fertilizers or chemicals on the plant prior to bloom?

The first photo looks almost like the exogenous seed head evolved from a proliferative bloom. Some cultivars are more prone to proliferation than others, and some fertilizers can stimulate such as I understand it.

(Do you folks know if such are normally fertile in roses? Would be a nice trick for maximizing the results of cross pollination efforts. :wink:)

(I assume it translates being Greek, but Exogenous –> exo- =outside and genius = born)

Aren’t those from a kind of wasp gall rather than just exogenous seeds?

Asking because I have encountered wasp gall forms on winter hikes abroad, they can give a similar look to exogenous seeds.

Examples below, although these hips are less fresh than Gustavo’s since the pics were taken in February.

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The first image may be something like a gall but the other three are exogenous seeds.

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Obrigado pela resposta!

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De nada!  (You're welcome!)

São roseiras de uma colega, cultivo convencional, com uso eventual de algum fertilizante sintético. Os aquênios surgiram de polinização aberta.

“These are rose bushes belonging to a colleague, conventionally grown, with occasional use of synthetic fertilizer. The achenes resulted from open pollination”

The proliferation might then be cultivar related?