A rant about those "bloom machine"- type roses!!

Many azaleas “rebloom” here due to weather and odd micro climates. Many flower most of the summer the closer to the ocean you find them, even in direct, all day sun. Banksiaes often do the same along the coast. The Banksiae lutea in front, which caps the top of the huge Golden Bamboo, scatters flowers off and on most of the summer. The double white and lutescens in back, where it’s much hotter, won’t. O’Neal and Jubilee blueberries can flower and fruit nearly ten months in some coastal areas, some years. Most often, it’s most of the summer, but has extended that long on occasion. Nigel Hawthorne and Arkansana “Peppermint” continued flowering all summer at the beach as canned plants in the nursery. In the mid desert, I could force Schoener’s Nutkana to ‘repeat’ by permitting it to form hips, allow them to begin to color, then strip them from the plant and water it as if it had winter rains, it would flower as heavily as it did its first flush.

That’s great info, Peter. Thanks. It explains why so many Baffin seedlings are non-remontant. A fair percentage, though, are very everblooming, so it must have some genes for remontancy.

Jim the Wendy I use is the New Zealand one bred by (Schuurman) . Although it has bred some reduced thorned roses , which depends on the other parent, it has also produced offspring with some pretty serious thorning. Its greatest asset is in its F2 offspring where as said earlier of the hybrid vigour occurance and also the reblooming factor is still quite strong.

Peter (R. bracteata) in the area where I live in OZ, starts its flowering later than some , but will flower through late Spring to Autumn.

One of the Rosa rugosa alba x Livin’ Easy sets some buds, finally. They are fuzzy like Linda Campell has. The buds are on 3" stems, which I hope doesnt mean that it is a once-bloomer. Is there a way to tell the repeat-blooming and non-repeat blooming rugosa seedlings once they have begun producing blooms?

Hi Warren,

All beautiful seedlings from ‘Wendy’. We need ‘Wendy’ in the US!

Jim , Wendy has given me everything a breeder desires. F1 Wendy crosses should never be back crossed with each other , it is disasterous, although you get huge bloom clusters, bloom form suffers badly. I have only given Wendy F1 wood to one person here in OZ , these are Wendy crosses of ( Gold Bunny, Altissimo and Abraham Darby)

This is a cultiver that I bred and was registered back in 2010, Dame Élégant a Wendy X Cressida. Although it lost a few petals of Cressida, the colour combination can be delightful. It has the ability to produce flowering canes with huge numbers of blooms and is never without a flower on it.

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Here is a seedling that has started to bloom, but not until it had 10 buds. I hope this might signify that it will be a blooming machine. It doesn’t have great flower form, but it has a great color and is cute.

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And here it is at start of bloom:

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Another round of growth is also starting.

Few polys have really pretty blooms, Jackie, and many of the older florries which have survived, lacked perfection of form. What kept them around was their mania for flowering. You can forgive a LOT when there is a field of healthy, continuous color in your face every time you encounter that plant!

This cross was Moondance X 34-06-05, neither of which I thought was very ‘polyantha’, but I was surprised by the amount of poly in the Moondance bloodline. This was a cross that brought out that influence, although the flowers are not really in that multi spire of multiflora, but it is young and the flowers are typically +1" poly looking, and nicely prickle free. So many of the moderns have this much or more Poly or Multiflora in their background.

You can forgive a LOT when there is a field of healthy, continuous color in your face every time you encounter that plant!

Yup that is what this thread is all about, nailed it!