Hi Kim, how’s the move going?

I’m thinking along the same lines as your Lynnie x Mutabilis seedlings now that I have 88-390 OP seedlings coming up. I think the lineage of Basye’s plants (above) is really interesting and love the idea of bringing it together with some of the better, shrubbier, Chinas like Comtesse du Cayla and Mutabilis. My OP 10,000 Camellia Red China Rose seedlings also will also be brought into the mix at some point. As seedlings only 5 months old I have one covered in buds and one that is already on its second flower… and that’s with growth over winter outdoors in an unheated greenhouse. They have so far, however, only been hot crimson singles that are a bit lose to my liking… not nicely proportioned singles at all. I missed taking a photo of the first one and will try to get some over the weekend of the others.

Greetings, Simon! “The Move” is accomplished, thank you. Unpacking, settling in and getting cans into the ground will take quite a while due to a variety of factors. I don’t envy 10,000 seedlings! Better you than me.

I’ve been pimping the DLFEDs on Purpurea, Miss Lowe, Mr. Bluebird (as it’s an Old Blush self), and a third generation Mutabilis apparent self. Rayon Butterflies is a self of Mateo’s Silk Butterflies, which is pretty much a Mutabilis self. This seedling was the result of putting DLFED pollen on Rayon Butterflies but shows no affinity to Fedtschenkoana. It remains short and blooms incessantly, so I believe it’s worth playing with. 'Rayon ButterFED' Rose

Your dwarf plant covered with buds sounds quite interesting. Once you can fix the plant size and obsessive flowering, I think you’ll have something worth pushing into other areas. Of course, decent disease resistance goes with that. I broke through a few of those barriers this year with this one. The plant is very controlled and it flowers nearly at the expense of growing larger. Each new shoot is less than a foot long and flowers at all the branch ends. It mildewed earlier in the season but it was cold and wet every evening and the plant is damned to a five gallon can for the time being, which it obviously hates, so I’m not worried about mildew with it.

Link: www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.152168

Noooooo… I don’t have 10,000 seedlings. I will end up with a fifth of that only if every seed germinates), the seedlings are from the rose Phillips and Rix called ‘10,000 Camellias Red China Rose’ in Quest for the Rose. Viru had some OP seed from his plant of ‘10,000 Camellias…’ that he sent over. They won’t be too dwarf either I don’t think. They have just flowered at a young age and small size at only 4-5 months old and 10-15cm high. The one that is about to flower now is going to be a semi-double… looking forward to seeing it :slight_smile: The largest one, with the best shape so far, is here:

Link: www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.63272