Michael and Bernard, this is a Sympathie X Gertrude Jekyll, which produced a plant no greater in height than 6", the canes if I had not pruned them back would have been around 8ft by now. The bloom is full double red. When I look at it , sort of reminds me of a pumkin vine running along the surface of the ground.
If this pic does not work it is on HMF as 09 19E 32F
That is so impressive. Do you have others from the same cross? I’m thinking that plant habit would be quite useful for a cool climate with inadequate snow cover. My OGR/climber babies tend to grow straight up to 7 ft. or so.
A lot from that same cross were more upright, but Sympathie crossed with others (Maigold, Just joey)formed that same habit but did’nt flower.
“…formed that same habit but did’nt flower”
seems that’s what I always give to the compost… also due to my limited space.
Warren, the flower of your Sympathie X Gertrude J.is indeed great.
btw: This season I’m going to use Sympathie with Simons frozen ‘Ebb Tide’ pollen, hope it will work…
Simon, thanks again for your support!
cheers
Bernhard
Hey Berhard,
No worries… BUT… I’m a little unimpressed with Ebb Tide here. I’ve thrown out all but one seedling from it this year, despite them all having nice purple flowers and even fragrance. The plants themselves were unthrifty. I kept one seedling that was Wild Rover x Edd Tibe because it seemed ok and could be used later on for my purple wichurana groundcover project but at this point I can’t see me keeping it for more than another year too. Ebb Tide has been a terrible rose here. For me, it hates to keep its leaves and it hates to flower reliably… it might do much better in a colder climate but here it is woeful. I intend to regraft it onto a multflora rootstock to see if that helps, as it has other roses here, but at this point I’m actually looking for a better purple plant to take its place and am hoping that my Trier x Ebb Tide seedlings can take on this role once I bring them and ‘Sweet Chariot’ together. I’ve had way more success with Route 66 to be honest and have raised one awesome seedling that is Route 66 x Hot Chocolate that has these great big semi-double ochre-coloured flowers on a good strong plant… just planted it out into the new test beds here to see how it does in the ground. I’ll post photos of it on RT when it gets established. I’m thinking that maybe purple wich groundcovers might be a possibility through Sympathie by the results Warren is getting too.
Hi Bernhard
That Sympathie x Gertrude J is blooming its head off at the moment, talk about a late starter.You will be amazed what Sympathie has given me in last years breeding, have only used it about 10 times this year. This spring I wont be using it as I have enough F1 crosses to work with.
Very pretty. I also have a Gertrude seedling (hip parent being Coallition)-- and it hasn’t bloomed for several years yet. I was going to throw it until this thread gave me some hope that Gertrude seedlings do bloom. (I’m just waiting patiently.)
Simon you will love this lol, crossed Graham Thomas with Blue Moon in the attempt to get either a mauve cupped form or the colour of Julia’s Rose. What I got really supprised me ( rich purpley plum) in cupped form.