In my garden, ‘Belinda’s Dream’ has only a very light, “modern” scent; modest at best and not at all comparable to its parent, ‘Tiffany’.
Hi David zone 4 Minnesota:
I forget Basyes Blueberry, hardy to zone 4. Even if I inspect it with a microscope, I can’t find any BS. It’s 100% healthy, 100% thornless, intense wild rose fragrance. I had to chase the bees away to get my turn for sniffiing. It’s completely healthy be it above 100 degrees summer, or week-long rain late fall. It’s very drought-tolerant, and I don’t water it once planted in the ground.
I grow my band-size roses in pots first, before planting in the ground before winter hits. When I took Basyes Blueberry from the pot, it has the longest root, a thick brown tap-root that’s at least 12" deep. Compare that to 4 inches alfalfa-sprout roots of Comte de Chambord, which broke when I transferred to the ground, after 7 months in the pot. Comte de Chambord doesn’t lose its leaves as own-root, but broke out in BS in late fall.
Robert Neil’s thornless blue rose, 3rd-descendant of Basyes Blueberry, has that long tap brown root. Kim Rupert bred incredibly healthy and fragrant Joyberry from Basyes Blueberry, he gave me some seeds … I expect them to be drought-tolerant … will report on its root system.