Dorothy Perkins has easy-to-see Hybrid wichurana habit: crawly or dangling canes whose tips droop to the ground (or never get off the ground) because they require support; lots of PM during and after bloom as Jadae said; shiny foliage; terminal leaflet tip bluntly rounded; and dilated stipules with fringes but not as extravagant as multifloras.
The blooms look very ruffled, in large clusters. See the page link below.
Thank you to all
George
The wet newspaper and saran wrap seems to be working great for the Carnea??? it has formed a great callus and even roots 1-3 inches long in 2-3 weeks. I have 10-12 planted and and more to come; many have small leaves and look great. The Polyantha cross however is being more difficult, it has some callus formation but not great yet, most of its wood is more mature.
Cass
The pictures of Dorothy Perkins are nice but the terminal leaflet of the rose in question has very sharply pointed leaves and bright green glossy foilage I will continue to call it R. multifloral var carnea. The polyantha cross I have no idea what it is but does look like American Pillar as Larry mentioned.
I will give another update once they are well rooted.
Thanks again for all the help.
David
I was wondering if your R. multiflora carnea is something like Tea Rambler. They both have the refinement of ancient SE Asian influence but I am unsure that it is R. m. carnea. I am not even sure that it is Tea Rambler. I have been looking through multiple similar roses but I am inconclusive as to what your find is.
Hi David.
Yeah, the newspaper method is no-fuss and usually successful…sometimes it just requires more time with the more difficult varietals.
This “trick of the trade” was divulged to me by a nice local rose grower/nurseryman who makes a living propagating roses…a good source for such advice, to be sure!
Its a great method. It works extremely well with anything descending from the systylae family. It worked well on the Yellow Brick Road cutting that Im rooting out. I think it took about 3 weeks from cutting to large callus – 4 weeks for good measure. I did not use rooting hormones.
Be sure to tell any family members what it is and where they are. I found mine in the garbage can one day after coming home, lol =(
LOL you were lucky to have spotted the missing “roll” in time! Well done!..usually it is very forgettable for a few days thrown away neatly in some drawer or such…LOL.
Yeah, well, my gf is a neat freak, so I know to expect it lol. I’m glad that my brain has a skull cause Im sure that would get “organized” too 
btw, this thread got me into looking at more of the early hybrids of the syst. family. I am wondering if both Mozart and Ballerina and selfs of Robin Hood. I am certain they are at least both close descendants of Madame Norbert Levavasseur. They both have a very odd trademark-- bristling of the wood where the flowering bracts are.
As an aside… do you know I have never seen mildew on my Dorothy Perkins here!!! I know!!! Crazy isn’t it. Starting to think I have an interloper. Well I would except that when it was in another location it mildewed badly and I broughtthe same plant down here… and not a speck on mildew for the last 4 years… strange but true.
George
Many thanks to all. I have 12 great cuttings of R. multifloral var carnea. The pink single with yellow stamens is being difficult I have one with a root ~1/2 inch long (I will plant it this week), several others have an ok callous. My questions is how long have you kept them in the newspaper? I have some that have been there for over a month they are still green and look good just not much of a callous.
Currently trying to get Josephs’ Coat and an unknown yellow single from my sister (she forgot the name) to start both are great at setting seeds. Also took some cuttings of wild multifloral and trying to graft a rose I gave to my mother over twenty years ago. It has been moved at least three times and I want to give a copy to my sister, and a few extras for me.
Since it is late in the year zone 5 we have had several nights with frost, I have these under lights in the basement. How long would you let them grow before you induce dormancy or would you let them grow until spring and plant them?
Hi David.
The pink single with yellow stamens is being difficult I have one with a root ~1/2 inch long (I will plant it this week), several others have an ok callous>>>>>>Since it is late in the year zone 5 we have had several nights with frost, I have these under lights in the basement. How long would you let them grow before you induce dormancy or would you let them grow until spring and plant them?<<<<<<<
My guess would be to keep them coddled in your warm lit basement until there is zero risk of frost in spring (if that is practical for you).
Good luck!
