Nick, about your Boursaults

If you’ve o.p. seeds on them, please collect them. I really think that there is hardiness in them that our colder climate people need and they seem to be a forgotten resource.

My found Boursault survived the Easter Freeze and bloomed, so there’s something there that many, many roses lack.


Nick Weber,

For several hundred seeds/year, it is practical to individually plant sprouted seeds from the refrigerator into individual pots.

Seeds in frig are checked once/week for sprouting;

usually, only 10-15 sprouted seeds are planted each week;

this is very doable.

When planting a sprouted seed, position the seed so that the sprout is pointing upward, which is counter-intuitive.


The following mentions using distilled water with hydrogen peroxide:



I’m curious about planting seeds with the sprout pointing up.

Would you expand on this for me? Or direct me to an explanation?




The root makes a U turn, then pulls the cotyledons upward out of the seed sheath which is held in place by the soil.

Seems to be a mechanism for separating cotyledons from seed.

Seeds planted root-down probably have to go through contortions to get into proper orientation, delaying germination.

Ann -

I did find and collect 6 ripe hips on 2 plants of Mme Sancy de Parabere or is it Amadis. Either way, they are from a boursault! I am finding hips on many wonderful OGRs as well as pure teas, chinas and hybrid chinas and some more modern classes. I wonder what I am likely to see? Hopefully, with all of the great suggestions, I will be able to have a few babies to dote on next spring. Now, its off to find that small frig and petri dishes to germinate them in. However, I got a hint somewhere, that seeds of rebloomers (eg teas and chinas) don’t really need much, if any, cold activation. Best, Nick